James Blonde Posted 21 July , 2008 Share Posted 21 July , 2008 Hallo Fellow members, this one has got me stumped, about 4 inches wide, I would welcome any ideas, does the crown hint to any period, I thought early 1900s to WW1. Sorry no picture of the rear as yet. Connaught Stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 21 July , 2008 Share Posted 21 July , 2008 Is it the Sally Ann? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 21 July , 2008 Share Posted 21 July , 2008 In AbeBooks there's a book called "In this sign conquer - story of the army chaplains". Also further searches point to a website about Anglican Priests called "In This Sign Conquer: A History of the Society of the Holy Cross 1855-2005". Maybe a religious connection then? EDIT ----- Got the answer you need - click here --> Royal Army Chaplains Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMixMonkey Posted 21 July , 2008 Share Posted 21 July , 2008 Royal Army Chaplains Department I cannot find an example similar to what you posted though EDIT: darn too slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 21 July , 2008 Share Posted 21 July , 2008 The AChD Badge centre is post WW1 type[1919],when it became RAChD A Thought:~Could it be a clergyman's cape Badge???? From The Horse's Mouth~RAChD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david murdoch Posted 21 July , 2008 Share Posted 21 July , 2008 Army Chaplains Badge The major feature is the silver Maltese Cross - used by the Crusaders and formed by placing four spear heads together so that the points meet in the centre. The motto is "In this sign conquer" and is attributed to a vision received by one of the early Christian Emperors. The whole badge has a wreath as a background - recalling the memorial element of a Chaplains work. The wreath changes between countries - e.g., in the British Army the wreath is oak; in Canada the wreath is maple; in New Zealand the wreath is fern and tea tree. In Australia the wreath is Eucalyptus and Wattle. As per HarryBetts - Was thinking also it is maybe a badge for a a ceremonial robe/cape, going by the size of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 22 July , 2008 Share Posted 22 July , 2008 I'm not too familiar with the full dress uniform of the pre-1919 RAChD, and depending on the size could it be either a crossbelt or pouch badge?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 22 July , 2008 Share Posted 22 July , 2008 Two small points: The shape of the crown puts it in the period 1901-1952 (the Imperial or 'Kings' pattern. The size suggests that it is a scarf badge. The preaching scarf is the black cloth worn round the neck and reaching almost to the ground, worn by Anglican clergymen and possibly others. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audax Posted 26 July , 2008 Share Posted 26 July , 2008 This is not a BRITISH Army Chaplains' Badge. The colours are totally wrong. The Royal Army Chaplains' Badge /Crest introduced in 1930 was the centre and scroll in Garter Blue whilst the arms of the cross are in silver. There are numbers of this type of badge about. They crop quite often on fleabay - often in North America. Could be a spurious badge? Anyone heard of the Maker 'AGNEW' A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted 27 July , 2008 Author Share Posted 27 July , 2008 Fellow Members, many thanks for the contributions in regards to my question. The mystery continues, but one would have to ask, apart from colour why would an organization use a badge which is so close. to that in design of the Army Chaplains' Badge and with the same motto. Were the different colors representative of the former Commonwealth countries, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand?? Connaught Stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted 28 July , 2008 Share Posted 28 July , 2008 Could it be a regimental car badge? These used to be very popular in the 1950s mounted on the bumper bars of civilian cars. The fittings on the back would help to make this clearer. In my experience the badges worn on clerical dress such as stoles etc tend to be embroidered rather than metal. Incidentally I think that Australia, Canada and New Zealand all remain Commonwealth countries and, at least for the time being , constitutional monarchies. Regards Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrpltpara Posted 29 July , 2008 Share Posted 29 July , 2008 This is not a BRITISH Army Chaplains' Badge. The colours are totally wrong. The Royal Army Chaplains' Badge /Crest introduced in 1930 was the centre and scroll in Garter Blue whilst the arms of the cross are in silver. There are numbers of this type of badge about. They crop quite often on fleabay - often in North America. Could be a spurious badge? Anyone heard of the Maker 'AGNEW' A I have an old sweetheart badge to the Border regiment that is maker stamped `AGNEW` Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennill Posted 1 September , 2008 Share Posted 1 September , 2008 Agnew is an Australian Badge manufacturer. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 1 September , 2008 Share Posted 1 September , 2008 ...Could be a spurious badge? Anyone heard of the Maker 'AGNEW' Or even a "Spirios" {AGNEW} Badge~Sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audax Posted 23 September , 2008 Share Posted 23 September , 2008 Here's another one - oh but its different colour this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audax Posted 29 September , 2008 Share Posted 29 September , 2008 More garbage - but someone bid on it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audax Posted 30 September , 2008 Share Posted 30 September , 2008 This ones being sold as WWII Australian Chaplains badge - ho ho ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 30 September , 2008 Share Posted 30 September , 2008 Or even a "Spirios" {AGNEW} Badge~Sorry! try anagramming 'spiros agnew' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audax Posted 1 October , 2008 Share Posted 1 October , 2008 not much good at anagrams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill54 Posted 4 October , 2008 Share Posted 4 October , 2008 Could all these badges just be various factions of The Society of the Holy Cross? Same basic design with local variations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audax Posted 17 October , 2008 Share Posted 17 October , 2008 Not unless the Society of the Holy Cross was under the authority of the British Crown!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 9 March , 2017 Share Posted 9 March , 2017 Hello everybody! Were you able to find out something about this sign? I found the same, and its history is very interesting. Thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ypres1915 Posted 11 March , 2017 Share Posted 11 March , 2017 I find these often at antique fairs etc .... I've always thought they are surplus badges that have been made into costume jewellery. No military or religious connection in my mind. Ypres1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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