Doug Lewis Posted 4 April , 2004 Share Posted 4 April , 2004 Remembering Skipper Alfred Charles Cable Name: CABLE, ALFRED CHARLES Initials: A C Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Skipper Regiment: Royal Naval Reserve Unit Text: H.M.S. "Vesper." Age: 35 Date of Death: 04/04/1916 Additional information: Husband of Ethel Hope (formerly Cable), of 87, Freeston St., New Cleethorpes, Grimsby. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. 4A. 1333. Cemetery: LARNE NEW CEMETERY Country: United Kingdom Locality: County Antrim Historical Information: This is at Greenland, on the Ballycarry road. There are 24 Commonwealth burials of the 1914-1918 war, 1 of which is an unidentified seaman of H.M.S. Viknor, and 14 of the 1939-1945 war, 1 of which is also unidentified. No. of Identified Casualties: 36 Regards Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will O'Brien Posted 4 April , 2004 Share Posted 4 April , 2004 Curious............I see Alfred Cable is noted as serving on HMS Vesper but he died in April 1916 and HMS Vesper wasn't launched until December 1917................More than one HMS Vesper?...............or is not all that it seems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 5 April , 2004 Share Posted 5 April , 2004 Will, You are correct about HMS Vesper being built/commissioned after Cable’s death As the above details give ‘Skipper, RNR’ I think that HMS Vesper should probably be read as HM Trawler Vesper I could find no vessel with the name Vesper recorded as lost in WWI But did find another Skipper [W. T. Marks] for HMT Vesper, No.WSA 344 on the Absent Voters list for Grimsby & Cleethorpes 1919 It does not prove anything, but perhaps suggests that Skipper Cable died of either illness or accident rather than going down with his ship? Regards Michael D.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will O'Brien Posted 5 April , 2004 Share Posted 5 April , 2004 Will, You are correct about HMS Vesper being built/commissioned after Cable’s death As the above details give ‘Skipper, RNR’ I think that HMS Vesper should probably be read as HM Trawler Vesper I could find no vessel with the name Vesper recorded as lost in WWI But did find another Skipper [W. T. Marks] for HMT Vesper, No.WSA 344 on the Absent Voters list for Grimsby & Cleethorpes 1919 It does not prove anything, but perhaps suggests that Skipper Cable died of either illness or accident rather than going down with his ship? Regards Michael D.R. Michael................Yes, I think you've hit the nail on the head with that..........Do you know whether there is a definitive list of all the Trawlers used by the RNR, which the name Vesper could be cross referenced against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 6 April , 2004 Share Posted 6 April , 2004 Will, I don’t have any info myself, however I see from a previous thread on trawlers that Malcolm pulled some useful gen on them from Dittmar & Colledge’s ‘British Warships 1914-1919’ see here Regards Michael D.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigantian Posted 6 April , 2004 Share Posted 6 April , 2004 Will, Dittmar & Colledge’s British Warships 1914-1919 has: Hired Trawler Vesper: 264 tons, launched in 1906, Port No GY 156 (Grimsby), Admiralty No 1340. It was renamed Vesper II in February 1917. The vessel was in Naval service from August 1914 to 1919. It was equipped with one 12 pounder gun and used as a minesweeper. Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will O'Brien Posted 6 April , 2004 Share Posted 6 April , 2004 (edited) Will, I don’t have any info myself, however I see from a previous thread on trawlers that Malcolm pulled some useful gen on them from Dittmar & Colledge’s ‘British Warships 1914-1919’ see here Regards Michael D.R. Michael.............I've sent a PM to Malcolm to see if he can shed any light on the 'HMS Trawler Vesper' question Oops...........Brigantian has nipped in there while I was posting............Many thanks for info Brigantian ..............It appears fairly conclusive that it was HMS Trawler Vesper that Alfred Cable served aboard..............Another little piece of the puzzle solved. Edited 6 April , 2004 by Will O'Brien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 7 April , 2004 Share Posted 7 April , 2004 See here for “Grimsby Roll of Honour 1914-1919 County Borough of Grimsby An account of the Borough’s Effort during the Great War 1914-1919 Together with the Roll of Honour Price Sixpence” There is brief chapter on “The Fishermen at War” However the Roll of Honour does not appear to include Skipper Cable I wonder if he is remembered on any Grimsby memorial? Regards Michael D.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted 9 April , 2004 Share Posted 9 April , 2004 Just back from Zeebrugge and I see Michael and Will have the info asked for. I can't add anything else. Aye Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest simonhardy1976 Posted 17 November , 2004 Share Posted 17 November , 2004 Alfred Charles Cable was married to my Grandmothers sister Ethel (maiden name Bolton) Family legend has it that he died of a broken neck or back, he was said to be a very severe man and that foul play was suspected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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