m ward royal irish regiment any info on records

[williammc]

hi

i am looking for info on a michael ward my ggfather royal irish regiment 1 garrison bn

killed on the 29/10/1915

how can i find out his age and where he joined up , we allways told he was in the connaugh rangers

but info a other family who told us that their ggfather was with him when he got killed leads us to belive that this him

any help would be geart

thanks

william

[archangel9]

William,

Name: Michael Ward

Birth Place: Miltown, CO. Galway

Residence: Athlone, CO. W. Meath

Death Date: 29 Oct 1915

Enlistment Location: Galway

Rank: Private

Regiment: Royal Irish Regiment

Battalion: 1st Garrison Battalion.

Number: 9221

Type of Casualty: Died

Comments: Formerly 4498, Conn. Rangers

Name: WARD

Initials: M

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Royal Irish Regiment

Unit Text: 1st Garrison Bn

Date of Death: 29/10/1915

Service No: 9221

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: C. 28.

Cemetery: ALEXANDRIA (CHATBY) MILITARY AND WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY

John

[williammc]

William,

Name: Michael Ward

Birth Place: Miltown, CO. Galway

Residence: Athlone, CO. W. Meath

Death Date: 29 Oct 1915

Enlistment Location: Galway

Rank: Private

Regiment: Royal Irish Regiment

Battalion: 1st Garrison Battalion.

Number: 9221

Type of Casualty: Died

Comments: Formerly 4498, Conn. Rangers

thanks john

that seems to fit with what we have being told this a great help

Name: WARD

Initials: M

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Royal Irish Regiment

Unit Text: 1st Garrison Bn

Date of Death: 29/10/1915

Service No: 9221

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: C. 28.

Cemetery: ALEXANDRIA (CHATBY) MILITARY AND WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY

John

[Arnhem44]

hi

i am looking for info on a michael ward my ggfather royal irish regiment 1 garrison bn

killed on the 29/10/1915

how can i find out his age and where he joined up , we allways told he was in the connaugh rangers

but info a other family who told us that their ggfather was with him when he got killed leads us to belive that this him

any help would be geart

thanks

william

Hi William,my Great Grandfather was Pte Joseph Harte who also served with the 1st Garrison Battalion of the Royal Irish Regiment,his number was 9254,it's every bit possible that they may of known each other.

Brendan

[corisande]

Interesting problem here William, as it is always more difficult when men change regiments/reenlist

1. A Michael Ward enlisted in Connaught Rangers, 4th Battalion Special Reserve, as 4478 (not as 4498 on memorial). A fraction of his service papers exist on Ancestry

3. He landed in a combat area on 7 Oct 1914

3. He was discharged with a pension of 28 pence om 11 Mar 1915

4. This man lived at Main St, Ballinasloe, and appears to have signed for is Star medal when sent to him in 1919

5. Then you have Michael Ward 9221 in Royal Irish Regt who landed 5 Sep 1915 in combat zone (France according to his medal card)

6 He died 29 Oct 1915 in Gallipoli,

7. 1st Garrison Battalion. Formed in Dublin, 2 August 1915.

24 September 1915 : landed at Mudros, having sailed from Devonport on 6 September. Working parties were sent into Suvla Bay, Gallipoli, during October 1915. After the withdrawal from Gallipoli, the Bn was sent to Egypt, where it landed on 5 February 1916 and then remained throughout the war.

8. He appears to have died in Alexandria, in as much as he is buried in a grave, rather than recorded on a memorial. Chatby Military and War Memorial Cemetery (originally the Garrison cemetery) was used for burials until April 1916, when a new cemetery was opened at Hadra.

9. My understanding is that Garrison battalions were raised from men too old/young/unfit for full military service. They literally garrisoned areas, leaving regular battalions free to fight. Egypt was a popular posting for them.

10 When was he born?

I cannot see that the two Michael Wards are the same, they might have been and someone just signed for his medals in 1919. Certainly there was time for him to sign up again in 1915

[mhifle]

Hi,

For 4478 Private Michael Ward. His regimental number would have him enlisting in the 4th Battalion Connaught Rangers in early Sept 1911

He was part of a draft of 190 other ranks from the 4th Battalion sent on 7 Oct 1914 to join the 2nd Battalion and included

4 Sergeants

1878 Sergeant Patrick Kane (wounded and in 1st Western Hospital Fazakerley 25 Nov 1914, transferred Labour Corps no.549155), 4452 Sergeant William Murphy (discharged 13 June 1916), 3183 Sergeant Patrick Beirne (discharged 20 July 1915), 4370 Sergeant Patrick Williams (Reduced to Private for misconduct & transferred Labour Corps no.394210)

4 Lance Sergeants

3760 Lance Sergeant John McGowan (transferred as Sergeant Royal Irish Rifles no.G/21210), 3886 Lance Sergeant Christopher Ryan (discharged 30 May 1916), 4353 Lance Sergeant Charles J Moraghan, 4449 Lance Sergeant John Walls (transferred Royal Defence Corps no.85197)

7 Corporals

4114 Corporal Byrne (discharged 27 March 1915), 3058 Corporal James Finn (transferred Labour Corps no.388364 & Royal Defence Corps no.79715), 3947 Corporal John Fleming (died of wounds 13 Nov 1914), 4769 Corporal Andrew Flynn (discharged 8 April 1916), 4652 Corporal Martin Fuery (transferred Labour Corps no.547598), 4131 Corporal James Keenehan (transferred Royal Irish Rifles no.G/609), 2529 Corporal Michael Sweeney

11 Lance Corporals

4450 Lance Corporal James Casey (transferred Royal Munster Fusilier no.1287), 4445 Lance Corporal John Doherty (transferred Labour Corps no.361520), 441 Lance Corporal John Dunleavy (killed in action 25 Oct 1914), 4055 Lance Corporal John Forde (died 28 Oct 1914), 4584 Lance Corporal Charles Hunt (discharged 25 Sept 1915), 4103 Lance Corporal Patrick Keeley (discharged 6 Jan 1916), 4146 Lance Corporal John Leech (appointed Acting Sergeant), 4138 Lance Corporal Frank McCarthy (discharged 12 April 1916), 4245 Lance Corporal John Monaghan (discharged 10 Feb 1915), 3567 Lance Corporal Thomas Mulligan (Died 21 Oct 1914), 4544 Lance Corporal Michael Ward (promoted Corporal & Killed in action 3 Sept 1916)

165 Privates

3743 Private John Boylan, 3030 Private John Burns (POW), 4436 Private Patrick Byrne (transferred Liverpool Regiment no.92605), 3268 Private Michael Carroll, 3550 Private John Casey (transferred Royal Irish Regiment no.429), 3246 Private Martin Clarke (transferred Army Service Corps no.R/40426), 3454 Private Joseph Cluskelly (POW), 4728 Private James Collins, 3255 Private John Conboy (transferred Labour Corps no.449477), 4092 Private Michael Conboy, 3173 Private James Connor (killed in action 1 Nov 1914), 2692 Private John Conroy (discharged 10 Feb 1915), 4537 Private Michael Conroy (died of wounds 10 Dec 1914), 3862 Private Peter Conroy (promoted to Corporal, awarded DCM, attached 47th Light Mortar Battery), 4843 Private Patrick Conroy (discharged 10 July 1915), 4840 Private Thomas Conroy (transferred Royal Munster Fusiliers no.1702 & Royal Fusiliers no.GS/143152), 3297 Private James Conway (Transferred Royal Irish Rifles no.G/616), 4514 Private Peter Corrigan (discharged 22 April 1917), 4339 Private Charles Costello (transferred Royal Munster Fusiliers no.1211), 4101 Private Bryan Coyle (killed in action 30 Oct 1914), 4177 Private Patrick Coyle (transferred Leinster Regiment no.6178 & Royal Army Medical Corps no.201335), 4152 Private James Croghan (discharged 15 March 1915), 2874 Private Michael Crosby (transferred Royal Irish Rifles no.G/1093 & Royal Irish Fusiliers no.31346), 3446 Private William Dare (discharged 20 June 1915), 3753 Private James Delaney (transferred Royal Defence Corps no.84110), 3051 Private Michael Dolan (died 8 Nov 1914), 4529 Private Patrick Donelan (killed in action 23 Oct 1914), 4456 Private Peter Donnelan, 2864 Private John Doyle (promoted Corporal & killed in action 30 Oct 1914), 4736 Private John Doyle (killed in action 30 Oct 1914), 4096 Private Patrick Doyle (transferred Labour Corps no.389026), 4262 Private John Duignan (transferred Royal Irish Fusiliers no.43121), 4615 Private Lawrence Dunne (transferred Liverpool Regiment no.101911), 3125 Private Michael Durkin (died 27 Oct 1914), 4090 Private Patrick Durkin (discharged 6 Oct 1915), 4340 Private Thomas Fahey, 3812 Private James Fallon (transferred Royal Army Medical Corps no.1958), 4290 Private Martin Fallon (transferred Royal Irish Fusiliers no.26578 & Labour Corps (230821), 4244 Private James Farrell, 4546 Private John Farrell (died), 4375 Private Michael Farrell (killed in action 2 Nov 1914), 4226 Private Patrick Farrell (discharged 20 June 1916), 3950 Private John Fleming (killed in action Near the village of Serain in the Department of Aisne with 5th Battalion 8 Oct 1918, His body was recovered by his brother Patrick, also a private in the Rangers), 3949 Private Martin Fleming (transferred Leinster Regiment no.6186), 4298 Private Mortimer Foley (discharged 11 Oct 1915), 4737 Private Thomas Foley (transferred Labour Corps no.229845), 3953 Private Timothy Foley (promoted Corporal), 3955 Private Joseph Forde (transferred Royal Irish Rifles no.19392), 4180 Private Thomas Gannon, 3960 Private Michael Garvey (wounded ‘C’ Company 6th Bn 14 May 1916), 4240 Private John Gettings (discharged 31 March 1916), 3658 Private John Gilhooley (transferred Royal Munster Fusiliers no.1276 & Army Ordnance Corps no.40967 & Royal Engineers no.609252), 4299 Private Luke Gilligan (transferred Liverpool Regiment no.92749), 4127 Private James Glancy (discharged 14 Jan 1916), 4319 Private Michael Gorman (transferred Royal Irish Fusiliers no.1514), 3217 Private Michael Grady, 4255 Private William Grey, 4539 Private Patrick Hamilton (transferred Labour Corps no.376487 & Tank Corps no.312179), 4547 Private Joseph Harrison (transferred 7th Battalion, Royal Irish Fusiliers 43164, killed in action 5 Sept 1916), 3804 Private James Healy (died 2 Nov 1914), 4089 Private John Higgins (discharged 6 Jan 1916), 3117 Private Joseph Higgins, 4346 Private Patrick Hoare (killed in action 26 April 1915), 3691 Private John Hughes (discharged 27 Oct 1914), 4513 Private Patrick Hynes (transferred Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers no.48430), 4360 Private Bernard (Edward) Kane (killed in action 6 Dec 1914), 4188 Private Patrick Kavanagh (transferred Royal Highlanders no.S/27451), 3478 Private John Kelly (deserted 26 Nov 1917-cancelled, transferred Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers no.48439), 4712 Private John Kelly (discharged 2 July 1915), 4205 Private Joseph Kelly, 4435 Private Michael Kelly (died 29 April 1916), 4312 Private Martin Kelly (23 Oct 1914), 4638 Private Thomas Kelly (discharged Royal Munster Fusiliers no.1212 & Labour Corps no.396243), 4471 Private Michael Kennedy (transferred Royal Irish Fusiliers no.1521 & Liverpool Regiment no.90044), 4081 Private James Kerins, 4636 Private James Kilkenny (POW & Transferred Northumberland Fusiliers no.99058), 4557 Private Francis Kinsley (transferred Royal Munster Fusiliers no.1706), 2891 Private Dennis Loughlin (discharged 11 Sept 1915), 4176 Private John Mannion (transferred Royal Irish Regiment no.24168 & Army Service Corps no.ES/58897), 4453 Private Patrick Mannion (discharged 8 May 1916 & joined Labour Corps no.341023), 4126 Private John Maughan (transferred Labour Corps no.487390), 3290 Private Thomas McCarthy (discharged 13 March 1916), 4629 Private John McCann (killed in action 18 Dec 1914), 4199 Private Patrick McDermott (transferred Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers no.43184), 4366 Private John McDermott (killed in action 30 Sept 1914), 4649 Private Thomas McDonagh (transferred Worcestershire Regiment no.47713), 2967 Private Thomas McDonnell (transferred Essex Regiment no.24823), 3034 Private Robert McDonogh (discharged 20 June 1915), 3421 Private Michael McGrath (discharged 26 June 1915), 4215 Private John McGowan (transferred Machine Gun Corps no.48591), 4794 Private Patrick McGowan, 4460 Private Patrick McGrath (POW), 2888 Private Thomas McGrath (Missing in action), 4519 Private John McVeigh (transferred Northumberland Fusiliers no.49124), 4654 Private Martin Meehan (transferred Cheshire Regiment no.61844 & Labour Corps 193900), 3022 Private George Meldrum (Missing in action), 4392 Private Thomas Mills (Died of wounds 30 Oct 1914), 2763 Private Edward Moran (discharged 27 Jan 1917), 4506 Private John Morrison (discharged 12 June 1916), 4468 Private James Muldoon (Missing in action 20 Oct 1914, POW), 4388 Private Frances Mulvey (POW), 3566 Private Dennis Murphy (transferred Royal Irish Fusiliers & Labour Corps no.680516), 3995 Private Patrick Murphy (POW), 4243 Private Michael Murren (Missing in action 20 Oct 1914, POW), 3885 Private James Norris (killed in action), 4000 Private John O’Keefe (Missing in action 7 Nov 1914), 4484 Private John O’Reilly (transferred Stokes Mortar Battery), 2950 Private Timothy Owens, 4407 Private Patrick Parkes (transferred Labour Corps no.486721), 4781 Private Albert Pearce (transferred Army Veterinary Service no.SR61), 4213 Private James Reilly (discharged 8 March 1916), 4343 Private Martin Reilly (discharged 9 June 1915), 4156 Private Daniel Sheehan (discharged 6 Jan 1916), 4429 Private Hugh Tiernan (Died of wounds 17 Nov 19149, 4246 Private James Timbs (Killed in action 26 April 1915), 4327 Private James Toole (discharged 31 Aug 1915), 4368 Private Henry Tully (POW), 3689 Private John Tymon (discharged 14 June 1915), 4478 Private Michael Ward (wounded near Ypres Nov 1914, in the right eye, discharged 11 March 1915), 4777 Private John Whittaker (killed in action 26 April 1915), 4220 Private Benjamin Whittaker (discharged 22 Feb 1915), 3233 Private Bernard Wynne (discharged 23 Aug 1916), 3907 Private Anthony Barrett (killed in action 7 Nov 1914), 3909 Private Robert Barrett (transferred Royal Irish Rifles no.21215), 4325 Private Charles Boniface, 4414 Private Patrick Burke (killed in action 17 March 1915), 4129 Private Arthur Coles, 4303 Private Martin Conlon (transferred Labour Corps no.229833), 4415 Private Thomas Conway (transferred Machine Gun Corps no.55972), 3253 Private Edward Courtney (transferred Labour Corps no.393967), 4672 Private James Crefin (killed in action 19 Nov 1914), 4307 Private Patrick Dowd (transferred Labour Corps no.399427 & Royal Fusiliers GS/110944), 4530 Private Patrick Fowley (transferred 5th&6th Connaught Rangers, & Tank Corps no.305122, 2 Aug 1917 GSW to face ‘mild’), 4684 Private Thomas Gilmartin, 4197 Private William Healy (POW), 4459 Private Martin Heaney (POW), 4283 Private John Holian (died of wounds 2 Nov 1914), 4187 Private John Kavanagh, 4104 Private Peter Kellegher (transferred Motor Transport Army Service Corps), 4462 Private Michael Lowe (transferred Royal Irish Fusiliers no.G/1522), 4535 4199 Private Patrick McDermott (transferred Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers no.43184), 3628 Private Martin McLoughlin (transferred Royal Irish Fusiliers no.G/1527), 4261 Private Michael McSherry, 3985 Private Thomas Meenaghan (transferred Royal Irish Rifles & Labour Corps no.584800), 4397 Private John Mugan (transferred Royal Irish Fusiliers), 4520 Private Patrick Mullaney, 4300 Private Bartholomew Patterson (transferred Royal Irish Fusiliers no.1529 & Royal Army Medical Corps no.205664), 2896 Private James Price (transferred Royal Munster Fusiliers no.G/1708), 4345 Private Edward Regan (transferred Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers no.43108 & Royal Irish Fusiliers no.29170 & Labour Corps no.613271), 4385 Private George Reynolds (discharged 9 Sept 1915), 3663 Private James Reynolds, 4341 Private Michael Reynolds (killed in action 26 April 1915), 4404 Private Peter Reynolds, 4482 Private Joseph Rooney, 2481 Private Michael Scally (missing in action), 3602 Private Joseph Scanlon, 4363 Private Patrick Scanlon, 4238 Private William Scanlon, 2612 Private Patrick Sharkey (transferred Labour Corps no.616704), 4015 Private Mark Skeffington (POW), 3439 Private James Thornton (discharged 2 June 1916), 3264 Private Michael Rouke (discharged 8 March 1916), 4635 Private Thomas McFadden (discharged 12 June 1916), 4202 Private Michael Beirne (killed in action 29 Oct 1914) after being found fit for active service

Regards Mark

[mhifle]

Hi,

I also don,t think these can be the same man.

4478 Private Michael Ward also signs for his British War Medal & Victory Medal on 5 Oct 1922.

Regards Mark