Smithmaps Posted 24 January , 2011 Share Posted 24 January , 2011 Trevor Pidgeon was a dear friend, and author of the definative book on tanks in the Great War. "The Tanks at Flers" He went on to write the guide book to Boom Ravine, and slightly before his death a follow up book on tanks called simply "Tanks on the Somme" These books were a major feat in themselves, but the rest of Trevor's life was equally impressive. I thought that his Obituary, published on the web site of Caterham School may be worth a few minutes of your time. Published Here: Caterham School Caterham School Trevor Pidgeon (1939 1940) Geoffrey, his brother has sent us this moving obituary: Trevor was born in Fulham on 30th December 1928. In 1933 the family moved to Caterham in Surrey where he later won a scholarship to Caterham School. Trevor was only at the School for one year but what a year ! It included the start of World War II and the Battle of Britain with some of it fought directly overhead. Nearby Kenley and Croydon aerodromes were bombed and in one of the raids our house in Greenhill Avenue had its roof damaged. Our mother, having been a Red Cross Nurse on duty helping the wounded at Croydon aerodrome immediately after the raid and having her home damaged decided enough was enough. We packed up and moved to join my father in Stony Stratford. He was in MI6 Section VIII (SIS Communications) that was based at Waddon Hall near Bletchley Park. All the ULTRA traffic for Military Commanders in the field went out via the Section VIII wireless station at Waddon. Trevor and I continued our studies at nearby Wolverton Grammar School but I 30 left later to join my fathers unit. Trevor, nearly three years younger than me, subsequently obtained Higher Schools in a number of subjects but I believe he had outstanding results in Latin and French. With the war over and wanting to continue his studies, he obtained permission to postpone his National Service. By this time, the family were living in London in Fulham Road, South Kensington. There were very few universities in those days compared to the present time and the popular ones Oxbridge and London were full. However, he found a place at Liverpool University. On his arrival in Liverpool he decided to take a First in French but was told that for a First he had to have a second modern language. This was when his remarkable grasp of languages first showed. He took Higher Schools (an A Level today) in German after only six months study in his spare time. To prepare his Thesis he studied for a year at the Sorbonne and he obtained a First Class Degree in French. After a short break journeying through France he had to start his two years National Service. Tired of studying he ignored an easy Commission in Army Education and chose to go into the Royal Armoured Corps. Their training camp was at Catterick in Yorkshire where he went for his basic training. On completing the course, he was presented with an award for being the outstanding recruit in his draft of several hundred, and told he was to be posted directly to Eaton Hall the Officers Training School near Chester. Part way through the course, he had visits by Colonels from two armoured regiments based in Germany. Both had been famous Cavalry Regiments but of course, long since part of the armoured divisions. Mother, father and I went up to his passing-out parade at Eaton Hall and afterwards he changed into civvies to have dinner with us at our hotel in Chester. He was clearly upset, as he had just been told that his academic records had caught up with him. As a result, his career as an officer in a Tank Regiment was off and after some leave he was to join the Intelligence Corps at their base at Uckfield in Sussex. After finishing his course, he was posted to the disputed port of Trieste on the joint British American Military intelligence Mission. When he had leave, he went on his Lambretta scooter across many parts of the region, including 31 going down into Greece as far as Athens. Whilst based in Trieste he added Italian to his growing list of languages. At the end of his two years National Service he had a short leave and then went into the Foreign Office. His first posting was as Third Secretary in Chancery at our Embassy in Damascus but he left as the entire Embassy was expelled over the Suez crisis in 1956. After a period in London he was posted to North Vietnam in 1958 to act as Consul in the miniscule Consulate-General in Hanoi. Being the communist half of the country this was a difficult post but Trevor always looked back on as a time of great privilege, being able to travel back and forth between the two halves of a nation virtually at war with itself. I remember him recounting a meeting during the Queens Birthday garden party at the Consulate where he joined a conversation on the lawn between General Giap, who had defeated the French army at Dien Bien Phu, President Sukarno of Indonesia and Premier Chou En-Lai of China. What a trio ! In 1960 he was selected to learn Mandarin Chinese, spending one year in London at the School of Oriental and African Studies and another at the University of Hong Kong. In between he spent three months trekking those parts of Iran, Afghanistan, Kashmir and Nepal that bordered the counties he was to specialise in. In 1962 he was posted as First Secretary to Peking (now Beijing), certainly his favourite posting, even though he arrived in the middle of the Cuban missile crisis and Sino-India border dispute, both of which had major repercussions in the Chinese capital. While in China he accompanied the Ambassador on the first Western diplomatic mission to Ulan Bator, in Outer Mongolia. Some of the film he took there was later shown on BBC television. The major event in Peking however, was his meeting and marrying Marion who had arrived in April 1964 to be the Ambassadors P.A. They were married three times ! The first was by the Chinese civil authorities. The second was in Church an upstairs room of what was once the YMCA, the sole Protestant Church permitted in the whole of North China. Their third wedding was by the civil authorities in Hong Kong. Their honeymoon then took them right around the world. The Times printed a piece about the marriage and on a visit to the School I showed the cutting to Arthur Davies-Jones who had been my English Master and was Deputy-Head at the time. 32 To the best of my recollection it read, In Peking the Chinese-speaking British First Secretary Trevor Pidgeon was married by an English-speaking Chinese Minister to Marion, the British Ambassadors P.A. Arthur Davies-Jones commented that it could have been made a trifle clearer ! Back in Britain, they settled in East Horsley where they spent four happy years before a new posting in 1969, this time to Caracas in Venezuela. Trevor had to learn Spanish and completed the course in less than six months. Soon after they arrived he found himself on Caracas television being interviewed in Spanish ! They stayed in Caracas until 1973 when Trevor was posted to Hong Kong as British Trade Commissioner in charge of China trade. He completed a tour of service there then they left for home. For a number of personal reasons, they stayed in Britain for the rest of Trevors career. In retirement, Trevor pursued his earlier interest in tanks and published a widely acclaimed history of the worlds first tank battle at Flers. He was an enthusiastic and committed member of the Western Front Association, Chairman of its Surrey branch, and its Cartographer for several years. Marion and Trevor lived in Cobham for many years where he wrote two more books both about the Somme a part of France that Trevor returned to year after year and which he knew extremely well. He lectured on the subject here and in France. I know that on completion of his two years National Service, he had hesitated before joining the Foreign Office pondering whether to pursue the army career that was offered to him no doubt in tanks. All things considered, I think he made a wise choice. Trevor was taken suddenly ill in April and died in the Princess Alice Hospice in Esher on May 14th. He was a devout Christian and had been Churchwarden of St. Marys Stoke dAbernon. He wrote the village magazine for a while and generally contributed to life in Cobham. His good work in so many spheres was reflected by the fact that there was not a single spare seat in the Church for the Service of Thanksgiving. In memory of his older brother, Geoffrey has presented Trevors three books, The Tanks at Flers, Flers and Gueudecourt and Boom Ravine to the School Library. We are most grateful. Rest in Peace Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 24 January , 2011 Share Posted 24 January , 2011 A splendid life and a lovely man. I met him on a number of WFA occasions but had only the sketchiest idea of his own background. The obituary has really explained a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 24 January , 2011 Share Posted 24 January , 2011 What Chris said. The Tanks at Flers made Trevor a hero in my eyes, all by itself. I learned what a good man he was via a couple of big favours he did me some years ago. But I didn't know that he had such a distinguished career or so many interests. He seems to have excelled in them all. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Marshall Posted 24 January , 2011 Share Posted 24 January , 2011 A remarkable man and a life well lived I'd say. For me Great War Tanks will always mean Trevor Pidgeon. Thanks for the post, Guy. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Saunders Posted 24 January , 2011 Share Posted 24 January , 2011 Thansk for sharing this. A splendid obituary that really celebrates Trevor's varied life from schoolboy through to retirement. Regards, Jonathan S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Filsell Posted 24 January , 2011 Share Posted 24 January , 2011 I knew Trevor for many years. Until the time of his death he was Chairman of the Surrey Branch of the WFA and the very best of chairman at that. I had the very great priveledge of being asked to give the ovation at his funeral at St Mary's Church Stoke D'Abernon on May 28th 2008. I said: "Like his many other friends in the Western Front Association, I will miss his wry humour, his lightly borne knowledge and kind presence. Above all, we will all miss Trevor the gentleman", before reading a few words from Quaker Faith and Practice about grief and those left behind and read the poem "Do not be Afraid" chosen by Trevor and his Wife Marjorie which ends with the words "Do not stand at my grave and weep I am not there - I do not sleep. Missing from the review of his recent posthumously published book in the latest edition of Stand To! insufficient credit was given to Graham keech who with Linesman completed tidying up the copy, seeking the picure and arranging for Pen and Swor to publish the book. A great and generous tribute by them to Trevor. As an final point, Trevor self published "The Tanks at Flers", because pen and Sword - he said - would not publish it with all the maps which he considered essential. Amazingly for a self published book it was reviewed in the Telgraph by Keegan who was huge in his praise for it calling it, from memory, the very best kind of self published boo - and it was. Above all Trevor is still mention with frequency and affection at Branch meeting s- hi is greatly missed. With fond memories David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelcave Posted 24 January , 2011 Share Posted 24 January , 2011 What everyone has said about Trevor above rings very true. Perhaps one of the lesser known kindnesses was the years that he put in as WFA Cartographer. He did an enormous amount of work on Trench Mapping, in his usual meticulous way; and the service he provided to those of us who took full advantage of buying such well reproduced maps (tho' admittedly in Black and White) was quite outstanding. He also worked with the French local authorities over some months when the Flers area remembrement came up, trying to safeguard, so far as apossible, tracks that had survived from the Great War. Trevor was a very modest man who wore his learning lightly and was invariably willing to help people in their researches at no small inconvenience, on occasion, to himself. I would reiterate what David said about Graham Keech's hard work in putting together Trevor's last, posthumous, book - along with one or two other of Trevor's friends, but the bulk of the work was Graham's. My small part lay in editing it and so I can testify to just how much time was needed to produce the finished product; altho' the text was all Trevor's, there was a tremendous amount of work involved in putting it together and sorting out and editing the maps. In the end Trevor was able to have his books completed on the use of tanks at Flers Courcelette and up to the end of the 1916 Somme battle and they will remain an outstanding resource for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta Posted 24 January , 2011 Share Posted 24 January , 2011 (edited) I met Trevor but once; a true gentleman he has guided me in my reseach before and after his death. Whenever I get stuck, I re-trace my steps and often Trevor provides a clue. Thanks for posting the obituary Stephen Pope Edited 19 September , 2023 by delta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted 24 January , 2011 Share Posted 24 January , 2011 I had Trevor's book 'Flers and Guedecourt' for Xmas and have just started reading it Its nice to know more about the man who wrote it Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Mackenzie Posted 24 January , 2011 Share Posted 24 January , 2011 Thank you for the post Guy. A fitting tribute to a great contributor to our knowledge of the War. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithmaps Posted 25 January , 2011 Author Share Posted 25 January , 2011 I would also re itterate that had it not been for Graham Keech, Trevor's last book would not be on the shelves. Trevor was shrude to the end, as he chose Graham wisely, as somebody capable and trusted to pull it altogether. Graham should be congratulated by all of us. It is rare indeed to come across a man, so widely liked, and who, if he were still alive, would gladly help any one of us, with no thought of recompense. It was a privilege to know him. I still have two hours of film of Trevor. I have a recording of his 'Tank' Lecture at the National Army Museum on the 14th September 2006, and the following day, I filmed him giving about an hour's talking actually on the battlefields around High Wood and Flers. One day I will learn enough about moviemaking to do something with it! Anybody out there with any tips? Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Filsell Posted 25 January , 2011 Share Posted 25 January , 2011 Correction, A silly error in my piece about Trevor. His wife's name is Marion. Humble apologies. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Saunders Posted 25 January , 2011 Share Posted 25 January , 2011 One day I will learn enough about moviemaking to do something with it! Unfortunately I cannot help but I am sure we all look forward to your end result! Regards, Jonathan S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw Posted 25 January , 2011 Share Posted 25 January , 2011 Guy, I would really urge you to seek advice about digitising the film you have of Trevor. I am sure a number of us would be happy to make a contribution to a suitable charity for a DVD of this footage , no matter how "raw". I was fascinated by the details of Trevor's life story - as has been said a life very well led. It explains his effortless urbane charm and lightly carried scholarship. One of the great pleasures of my jaunts on the Western Front was Trevor's kind invitation to tag on to a visit to the interior of High Wood. Obviously, no better guide could be imagined. Of course, my copy of "The Tanks at Flers" has pride of place on my bookshelf. It is such an obvious labour of love that one almost feels guilty to have stolen it from him for whatever silly price he asked for it all those years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanks3 Posted 25 January , 2011 Share Posted 25 January , 2011 Guy, I for one would also be interested in seeing a copy of the DVD and listening to Trevor's "Tank" lecture. If this is available then do let us know. Like Ianw I am sure several of us would pay to have copies of these gems Tanks3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 25 January , 2011 Admin Share Posted 25 January , 2011 I had the great pleasure of meeting Trevor and enjoying his company more than once; he was as Terry Cave put it in his WFA obituary, the quintissential English Gentleman. A delightful man who was always eager to share his knowledge. I know what he was honoured to have been asked to give the exhortation in the Guards' Chapel but sadly fate intervened. I must put right the absence of his posthumous work on my bookshelves; I sure that Graham found it bitter sweet to be editing his late friends' work. Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidearm Posted 25 January , 2011 Share Posted 25 January , 2011 Thank you for posting the obit. I am afraid I never met him but remain in awe of his scholarship. Guy: even a transcript of his lecture would be fascinating. Gwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJohnson Posted 25 January , 2011 Share Posted 25 January , 2011 Like Michelle I was fortunate to meet Trevor . He was a kind gentle man , always willing to share his deep knowledge of the Great War . He is greatly missed . Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithmaps Posted 26 January , 2011 Author Share Posted 26 January , 2011 Guy, I for one would also be interested in seeing a copy of the DVD and listening to Trevor's "Tank" lecture. If this is available then do let us know. Like Ianw I am sure several of us would pay to have copies of these gems Tanks3 Finance is definately not the issue. I would not dream of selling the end product (other than costs), that would most definately not be what Trevor wanted. The footage is already digital, having been taken on a Sony camcorder. I just lack the expertise/knowledge of editing software and formats to present something that is shareable. The Sony format is awkward, and my previous attempts, when transfered to DVD, have ended up with either no sound, or squashed pictures. All very frustrating. The sound may also need enhancing, so I need it done by somebody who knows what they are doing. I'll get round to it. Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw Posted 26 January , 2011 Share Posted 26 January , 2011 Guy, I don't think anyone was suggesting that finance was the issue here - I would be similarly challenged by digital video formats. However, if such a DVD were to be available, it would be nice to use it as a vehicle to raise funds say for the hospice that is associated with Trevor or another appropriate charity. Regards Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fair Posted 30 January , 2011 Share Posted 30 January , 2011 I still have two hours of film of Trevor. I have a recording of his 'Tank' Lecture at the National Army Museum on the 14th September 2006, and the following day, I filmed him giving about an hour's talking actually on the battlefields around High Wood and Flers. One day I will learn enough about moviemaking to do something with it! Guy - thanks for posting the obituary. He was indeed a gentleman and always willing to share his knowledge. I've just been reading the latest book which reminded me of what amazing depth of scholarship we have lost. Graham did a superb job in editing it as you say. As one of those who was guided around the wood by him on 15th Sept 2006 I would love to see the film one day. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard_Lewis Posted 30 January , 2011 Share Posted 30 January , 2011 Had no dealings with Trevor; sounds like I missed out quite a lot. Marvellous obituary. Bernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 20 May , 2017 Share Posted 20 May , 2017 I met Trevor in the summer of 1961, in Kabul. I and 4 other undergraduates were driving to India, and Trevor joined us. From Rawalpindi we flew to Gilgit in a Pakistan Airforce DC3, up the Indus gorge with mountains far above us on both sides. From Gilgit we trecked towards and part way up Mt Rakaposhi. After a hair-raising jeep ride back down the Indus gorge, we parted in Rawalpindi, Trevor to continue on his way to Hong Kong. I remember a delightful man, who seemed much older and wiser than we undergraduates. Hereward Corley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 9 November , 2017 Share Posted 9 November , 2017 Trevor's book, Tanks at Fleurs, is now very desirable, selling at over £100. I got a reply from him when the book was new, and I shall cherish it more now I'veread this obituary. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Regiano Posted 10 November , 2017 Share Posted 10 November , 2017 The Tanks at Flers is also one of my favourite books. I couldn't believe my luck when I managed to get a copy (listed "as new" but seemed new to me) fairly cheaply just over a year ago. I believe the proposal to reprint it has now been shelved? Needless to say, mine is not going anywhere. Reg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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