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When is a ship wreck protected?


Jim Strawbridge

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Last time I was diving up in Scapa flow, the dive boat skipper was saying that they are cutting chunks off of the scuppered German WW1 fleet - well those that are still there - especially the 13" thick armour plating. I know their not war graves but they are protected by some archaelogical act.

Apparently because it has been underwater since the first nucler explosion went off, it is radioactive free and is used for specialist instruments

Grant

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Yes, I have heard that before too

Cheers Ron

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Yes, I have heard that before too

Cheers Ron

This is my first posting as a new member to the Forum. I was interested in the healthy on going debate.

I am interested because my Grandfather served on the Barryfield in WW1 in the Dardanelles / Gallipoli campaign.

This ship was sunk in WW2 and has recently been located off Sunderland and I understand this is now designated a War Grave.

Does this stop you from diving to the sight or only from removing any remains / articles ?

Does anyone know the answer to this question?

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It is not specifically designated under the Act, so there are no legal restrictions under it.

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Hello Sloop

Your fathers ship, the 497-ton paddle steamer BARRYFIELD (ex BARRY and later WAVERLEY and finally HMPS SNAEFELL) lies about 6 miles off Sunderland and is not a designated war-grave, although I would agree that it probably should be; however it has been well and truly dived on now with many articles being removed, although I’m not sure about the bell. There are certainly no reports of human remains being seen in the wreck though.

Also being a WW2 subject, the ship is in the wrong forum

Cheers Ron

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Hello Sloop

Your fathers ship, the 497-ton paddle steamer BARRYFIELD (ex BARRY and later WAVERLEY and finally HMPS SNAEFELL) lies about 6 miles off Sunderland and is not a designated war-grave, although I would agree that it probably should be; however it has been well and truly dived on now with many articles being removed, although I'm not sure about the bell. There are certainly no reports of human remains being seen in the wreck though.

Also being a WW2 subject, the ship is in the wrong forum

Cheers Ron

Hi Ron and All on the Forum,

My interest in the Barryfield is because my grandfather served during the Dardanelles Campaign WW1 on the Barry.

My understanding was that it was now a war grave but anyway at 60M it would be a technical dive beyond me at the moment.

I think the refit in 1926 would not have changed it significantly from the WW1 and it would be nice to get a feel for a ship he once served on.

I know depending on the size of ship and position of the ship on the bed the upper structure may not be anything like 60m deep.

I was interested to know if and how this wreck was protected hence my post.

Although not strictly under this stream I would be pleased to hear from anyone who knows about the Barryfield's campaign in the Dardanelles / Gallipoli including travelling to and from Avonmouth, etc.

Cheers, Sloop

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Sloop,

have you seen - http://www.advanceddivermagazine.com/articles/silentrunning/silentrunning.html

and - http://www.southwestmafia.com/forumswm/archive/index.php?t-6418.html

Apparently the wreck of the HMPS Snaefell was found and identified by Sport divers and thus the location of the final resting place of the three men who went down with her was identified.

If you have a read of the 2nd link above, about 3/4 of the way through the thread it tells of a chap giving a talk about a wreck and living relatives of those lost on the ship attended, bringing medals, rolls and photos of the ship as was and compared with the photos of as she is now.

Grant

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Sloop,

have you seen - http://www.advancedd...entrunning.html

and - http://www.southwest...php?t-6418.html

Apparently the wreck of the HMPS Snaefell was found and identified by Sport divers and thus the location of the final resting place of the three men who went down with her was identified.

If you have a read of the 2nd link above, about 3/4 of the way through the thread it tells of a chap giving a talk about a wreck and living relatives of those lost on the ship attended, bringing medals, rolls and photos of the ship as was and compared with the photos of as she is now.

Grant

Grant,

Thanks for the lnks. Very interesting. Sloop.

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