scottie dog Posted 14 February , 2012 Share Posted 14 February , 2012 Hi, My grandfather David Christie was an engineer on HMS E9 during WW1. Beyond that I know very little and wonder if anyone can help provide more details of his service record, the crew, old photos of E9 etc. Anything at all would be greatly appreciated. Sheila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Mills Posted 14 February , 2012 Share Posted 14 February , 2012 Hello Sheila, Unlike the Army service records, many of the naval records were not subjected to the bombing raids of 1940, in which case there is a fairly good chance that you may find the information on David Christie on Ancestry.com. If you're not a subscriber then some kind soul who does have access may be able to check for you. The National Archives (Kew) do not appear to have any log books relating to the submarine (only a cursory search) but they do appear to have some information on a 1917 grounding incident involving the H.M. Submarine E 9. If you live near Kew then the file number is: ADM 137/3468. I've taken a quick look at Janes Fighting Ships and it says that E 9 was a war loss and was scuttled in the Baltic. It doesn't say when but it could be related to the 1917 mishap as the grounding of the E 19 is also included in the report at Kew, and Janes also lists that submarine as a war loss. Hope this will serve as a useful start, Simon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie dog Posted 14 February , 2012 Author Share Posted 14 February , 2012 That's good start. Thanks very much Simon. Hello Sheila, Unlike the Army service records, many of the naval records were not subjected to the bombing raids of 1940, in which case there is a fairly good chance that you may find the information on David Christie on Ancestry.com. If you're not a subscriber then some kind soul who does have access may be able to check for you. The National Archives (Kew) do not appear to have any log books relating to the submarine (only a cursory search) but they do appear to have some information on a 1917 grounding incident involving the H.M. Submarine E 9. If you live near Kew then the file number is: ADM 137/3468. I've taken a quick look at Janes Fighting Ships and it says that E 9 was a war loss and was scuttled in the Baltic. It doesn't say when but it could be related to the 1917 mishap as the grounding of the E 19 is also included in the report at Kew, and Janes also lists that submarine as a war loss. Hope this will serve as a useful start, Simon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spithead Posted 14 February , 2012 Share Posted 14 February , 2012 Hi Sheila E9 was scuttled in Helingfors Bay, Finland, to avoid capture (3.4.18) Hope this helps Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_Underdown Posted 14 February , 2012 Share Posted 14 February , 2012 Naval records aren't on Ancestry, you need to look at the Navy section of DocumentsOnline on The National Archives' website. Assuming he was an engineer officer, this http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7931934 may be a possibilty. Otherwise, there are these seamen http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?searchtype=browserefine&query=first_name%3ddavid%7clast_name%3dchristie&catid=15&pagenumber=1&querytype=1&mediaarray=* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie dog Posted 15 February , 2012 Author Share Posted 15 February , 2012 Thanks John....especially for the photo. Sheila Hi Sheila E9 was scuttled in Helingfors Bay, Finland, to avoid capture (3.4.18) Hope this helps Regards John David thanks for the links. I'll be searching right away. Naval records aren't on Ancestry, you need to look at the Navy section of DocumentsOnline on The National Archives' website. Assuming he was an engineer officer, this http://www.nationala...Edoc_Id=7931934 may be a possibilty. Otherwise, there are these seamen http://www.nationala...=1&mediaarray=* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_Underdown Posted 15 February , 2012 Share Posted 15 February , 2012 Actually, I forgot that Ancestry do have the naval medal rolls. Also worth checking those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g6yfb Posted 15 February , 2012 Share Posted 15 February , 2012 The web site below list E9 as being scuttled along with 7 other submarines in the Baltic on April 4th 1918. http://www.naval-history.net/WW1LossesBrRNA-L.htm I hope this helps Graham Sorry about the date it was April 3rd 1918. Rgds Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g6yfb Posted 15 February , 2012 Share Posted 15 February , 2012 Scottie dog, You may also want to visit the site below as E9 was mentioned in dispaches for its actions on the Enemy's Coast in the Heligoland Bight On the 6th October, "E.9" (Lieutenant-Commander Max K. Horton), when patrolling off the Ems, torpedoed and sank the enemy's destroyer, "S.126." Link :- http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyBritishLGDispatchesNavy1914-16.htm#28948b Cheers G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals Posted 17 February , 2012 Share Posted 17 February , 2012 Shiela, is this him, if so not an E9 man, L8 was his girl. Christie, David Fiddes, RNVR Z/7149 & K32353, Stoker 1st Class He joined Dolphin & Submarine mid 1918 after E9 was gone. I have all the crew lists for E9 when she got into the Baltic, when the Russian awards were handed out twice in 1915 and there is no Christie amoung them. Cheers DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie dog Posted 19 February , 2012 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2012 Darren thanks for that. It's back to the drawing board I think!! Thanks to others who contributed. Sheila Shiela, is this him, if so not an E9 man, L8 was his girl. Christie, David Fiddes, RNVR Z/7149 & K32353, Stoker 1st Class He joined Dolphin & Submarine mid 1918 after E9 was gone. I have all the crew lists for E9 when she got into the Baltic, when the Russian awards were handed out twice in 1915 and there is no Christie amoung them. Cheers DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie dog Posted 19 February , 2012 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2012 Darren I've now got a lead suggesting he was on the submarine J6 with Commander Horton. Would you (or anyone else) by any chance have crew lists of J6 which might confirm this?? Thanks in anticipation. Sheila Darren thanks for that. It's back to the drawing board I think!! Thanks to others who contributed. Sheila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals Posted 19 February , 2012 Share Posted 19 February , 2012 Darren I've now got a lead suggesting he was on the submarine J6 with Commander Horton. Would you (or anyone else) by any chance have crew lists of J6 which might confirm this?? Thanks in anticipation. Sheila If that is him i have suggested, then no way he was with Horton in J6, his papers only show he was in L8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadsac Posted 20 February , 2012 Share Posted 20 February , 2012 Hello Sheila, here are two awards to crew of E9 - more if required. Now sadly a negative ; after searching my file I cannot find a David Christie - neither in ratings file or officers & there is only one Christie in Nominal Lists & that is a Andrew Christie. As you say you have his service record could you post it here ?? Sadsac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie dog Posted 20 February , 2012 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2012 Darren my grandfather was plain and simple David Christie so not him. THX If that is him i have suggested, then no way he was with Horton in J6, his papers only show he was in L8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals Posted 20 February , 2012 Share Posted 20 February , 2012 Hi Shiela, i just checked through the RN Medal Rolls, and to back up Sadsac, the only one is the one I gave you, there are 2 Ordinary Seaman & 1 Able Seaman. What year was he born? There is one lead which fits the bill as i have just looked at the RNR Medal Rolls, i have no idea if he was in submarines so maybe he was & maybe he could be in E9, but it would be from 1917 onwards only, but there is a David Christie, ERA Royal Navy Reserve, Number EA1236 Also checked the RNVR Medal Rolls, only 2 Able Seamans with this name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie dog Posted 20 February , 2012 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2012 Darren My grandfather was born in 1881. My brother has been sifting through family papers at his end and these seem to indicate that my grandfather served on submarine J6 as well as HMS Arctic Whale (not sure what type of vessel this was). Can you shed any more light? Meantime your efforts really are appreciated. Sheila Hi Shiela, i just checked through the RN Medal Rolls, and to back up Sadsac, the only one is the one I gave you, there are 2 Ordinary Seaman & 1 Able Seaman. What year was he born? There is one lead which fits the bill as i have just looked at the RNR Medal Rolls, i have no idea if he was in submarines so maybe he was & maybe he could be in E9, but it would be from 1917 onwards only, but there is a David Christie, ERA Royal Navy Reserve, Number EA1236 Also checked the RNVR Medal Rolls, only 2 Able Seamans with this name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Mills Posted 20 February , 2012 Share Posted 20 February , 2012 Is this it? http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30018233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals Posted 22 February , 2012 Share Posted 22 February , 2012 Hi Shiela sent you a personal message with my email if you need any more help Darren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikkoTapani Posted 6 March , 2012 Share Posted 6 March , 2012 Hello, E9 was scuttled near the Harmaja lighthouse not far from Helsinki (Helsingfors). In a way the Germans got her after all as a German company Beckedorf Gebrüder lifted her in 1953 for scrap metal. Morpheus Hi Sheila E9 was scuttled in Helingfors Bay, Finland, to avoid capture (3.4.18) Hope this helps Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E9 Sub Posted 1 September , 2014 Share Posted 1 September , 2014 My Grandfather, Frederick Bown, served on E9 in the Baltic. With the help of the Submarine Museum I have researched his service. Also served on D6 with Max Horton then after returning from Russia survived the sinking of K17 at May Island. Would like to hear from anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe R Posted 2 September , 2014 Share Posted 2 September , 2014 Hi All, There is a typo in post #9. The enemy destroyer that E9 sank on 6 Oct '14 was S116 not S126. Source: German Warships 1815-1945 Volume One: Major Surface Vessels by Erich Groner. Revised and expanded byDieter Jung and Martin Maass, This typo is every where on the internet. Goggle S126 then Goggle S116. Respectfully, Joe R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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