Terry Posted 5 August , 2004 Share Posted 5 August , 2004 For anyone who has a full wallet, check out ebay item 226151104. Two casualty groups, apparently to brothers, complete with memorial plaques, memorial crosses, ID tags, photos,etc. Lieut. Charles Herbert White, 20th Bn, DOW 17 Aug.,1917; and 757969 Pte.John White, 3rd Bn., KIA 20 Sept.,1917. There are so few opportunities to obtain complete groups like this that I can imagine the bidding will be heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markinbelfast Posted 5 August , 2004 Share Posted 5 August , 2004 post the url please...cant find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 5 August , 2004 Share Posted 5 August , 2004 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=2261561104 enjoy. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted 5 August , 2004 Author Share Posted 5 August , 2004 Whoops; sorry fellows. I slipped up on the number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 5 August , 2004 Share Posted 5 August , 2004 What a great group and documentation. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_Bluestein Posted 6 August , 2004 Share Posted 6 August , 2004 Terry....AMAZING!!!!!! Oh to have money? David PS: One of the Memorial Plaques looks like an engraved example. Teapots should see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brummy Posted 6 August , 2004 Share Posted 6 August , 2004 I have never seen a memorial cross before, who issued these and what was their significance. Brum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Alexander Posted 6 August , 2004 Share Posted 6 August , 2004 In World War One the Canadian government issued the cross to the female next of kin of the soldier/sailor/airman who died in the service of his/her country. The cross was a separate award, usually for the mother or wife of the soldier. It was not issued with the medals, as it was a single commemorative intended for the female next of killed. The Memorial Cross has also been awarded to other relatives. The Memorial Cross is still awarded to the families of service personnel who die while in the service of Canada. This site describes the warrant for the MEMORIAL CROSS. A short summary of the issue card is found at Memorial Cross Card. Note that a more modern warrant has been quoted as to the definition of next of kin in this site. The lot described is indeed an exceptional lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pete Wood Posted 6 August , 2004 Share Posted 6 August , 2004 One of the Memorial Plaques looks like an engraved example. Teapots should see this. I'm not so sure this is engraved. Has anyone actually contacted the seller.....?? If not, I will email him about this. Because IF it is engraved, it suggests that this plaque was not made until around 1930. Looking at the way that these items have been preserved (in other words a caring family), this does not make sense to me. But I would LOVE to be wrong. I have yet to see a Canadian engraved plaque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Coulson Posted 6 August , 2004 Share Posted 6 August , 2004 Bill, Many thanks for the background info on the Memorial Cross, very interesting. Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted 6 August , 2004 Author Share Posted 6 August , 2004 Bob, Perhaps some of my fellow Canadian Pals can confirm this, but you may recall that a couple of years ago four members of the 3rd Bn.,PPCLI were killed by "friendly fire" in Afghanistan. Within a few days, by the time the funerals were held the widow of Sgt.Marc Leger was wearing a memorial cross, so the government for once had acted quickly. In recent years the Silver Cross Mother annually selected to lay a wreath in Ottawa on 11 Nov. has often been the mother or widow of a peacekeeper killed in some UN mission or a soldier killed on duty in places like Afghanistan. Despite not having been in a major war for decades the Canadian Forces have continued to see much active service. For example Canadian losses in the former Yugoslavia in the 1990's were about twenty killed and around one hundred wounded or injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brummy Posted 6 August , 2004 Share Posted 6 August , 2004 In World War One the Canadian government issued the cross to the female next of kin of the soldier/sailor/airman who died in the service of his/her country. The cross was a separate award, usually for the mother or wife of the soldier. It was not issued with the medals, as it was a single commemorative intended for the female next of killed. The Memorial Cross has also been awarded to other relatives. The Memorial Cross is still awarded to the families of service personnel who die while in the service of Canada. This site describes the warrant for the MEMORIAL CROSS. A short summary of the issue card is found at Memorial Cross Card. Note that a more modern warrant has been quoted as to the definition of next of kin in this site. The lot described is indeed an exceptional lot. Very helpful Bill thanks very much. Brum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Alexander Posted 6 August , 2004 Share Posted 6 August , 2004 In answer to Terry and to clarify, the Memorial Cross continued to be issued to service personnel, with some changes to the warrant, during World War Two and Korea. It continues to be given to NEXT of KIN. Indeed the images that were circulated in the media after the Afghanistan casualites to the PPCLI showed the widow of one wearing a Memorial Cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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