7Y&LP Posted 24 March , 2012 Share Posted 24 March , 2012 Hello, Can anyone provide any information on the following 'German' units: 3rd Btn 229 RIR and the 3rd Btn 230 RIR ? In September 1917 both were part of the 50th Reserve Division and both took part in The Battle of The Menin Road. Would I be correct in assuming RIR stands for 'Reserve Infantry Regiment' ? Which of the German states would they have come from ? Many thanks for yout help, look forwrd to reading your replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 24 March , 2012 Share Posted 24 March , 2012 Jon both regiments (with their III. Battalions) were part of the 99. Reserve-Infanterie-Brigade of 50. Reserve-Division. You are correct: RIR is the abbreviation for Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment. They were Prussian (Silesian) regiments, the whole of RIR 229 being raised in Breslau and III./RIR 230 in Gleiwitz. The other two battalions of RIR 230 were formed Brieg and Oppeln. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Y&LP Posted 24 March , 2012 Author Share Posted 24 March , 2012 Thank you very much for that Glenn, Is there an equivilant of 'The Long,Long Trial' for Imeprial German units ? Best regards Jonathan Bowd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken S. Posted 25 March , 2012 Share Posted 25 March , 2012 Both units has histories: RIR229 Link zu diesem Datensatz http://d-nb.info/578346966 Titel Das Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr 229 / Nach d. amtl. Kriegstagebüchern bearb. Alfons Wiedersich. Geleitw. von Major Franke Person(en) Wiedersich, Alfons ; Franke, ... Verleger Berlin : Tradition Erscheinungsjahr 1929 Umfang/Format XII, 349 S. : Mit 9 Ktn, 28 Bild., Feldzugserinnerungen u. e. Ehrentaf. d. Gefallenen d. Reg. ; 8 RIR230 Link zu diesem Datensatz http://d-nb.info/36214401X Titel Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 230 / zsgest. nach d. amtl. Kriegstagebüchern u. priv. Aufzeichn. durch Günther von Niebelschütz [u.a.] Person(en) Niebelschütz, Günther von Pook, W. Verleger Oldenburg i. O. : Gerh. Stalling [Hagen i. W., Bahnhofstr. 41 II] : [Offizier-Vereinigung R. I. R. 230, Dr. E. Parker] Erscheinungsjahr 1926 Umfang/Format 293, 90 S. : Mit 8 Kt., 8 [eingedr.] Geländeskizzen u. 43 Abb. [auf Taf.] ; 8 Gesamttitel Erinnerungsblätter deutscher Regimenter ; Nr. 159 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 8 April , 2012 Share Posted 8 April , 2012 There is a small booklet about RIR 231 as well. I have all three books. There may have been parts of the histories translated in the book by Jack Sheldon "The German Army at Passchendaele"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Y&LP Posted 26 April , 2012 Author Share Posted 26 April , 2012 Many thanks for all the info folks, the war diary of 1 Queens states 'no less than 6 divisions being used in this attack upon our divisional front'. So, any idea who the other divisions were apart from the 50th Reserve and which units made up their composition ? The British forces in this action composed (according to the war diary) 98th & 100 Brigades (33rd Division), with 9th HLI and 1st QRWS as leading batts of 100th Brigade, the diary also mentions 2nd Worcesters & the 'Glasgow Highlanders' (= 9th HLI ?), whilst my grandads account mentions casualties thus: 'Before we got near the reserve line we had two platoons knocked out. I saw a platoon of HLI's get a big one amongst them and we passed best part of a platoon of the Middlesex on the ground in bits.' As ever any info gratefuly received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 26 April , 2012 Share Posted 26 April , 2012 Jonathan, Is this of use? British produced map of the German Order of Battle on the 26th September 1917. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Y&LP Posted 27 April , 2012 Author Share Posted 27 April , 2012 Thank you very much Phil, that is excellent ! Is the map easily obtainable ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 27 April , 2012 Share Posted 27 April , 2012 I found it at Kew. I have the full sheet photographed, but in poor light with a hand held camera. If you want a copy PM me with your email address. 24th Division is actually at the southern extremity of the map, but it extends a lot further north and round to the coast at Nieuport. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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