Guest scott leader Posted 10 August , 2004 Share Posted 10 August , 2004 Hi Yet another question on the T.F (1) 1295 on 1915 Trio & 200109 on MM, did he join very early in the war as his service number is 1295? (2) Renumbering system - Re - 200109 why did this happen? (3) Do any of you guys know anything on the 1/5 East Lans? around March 25 1918 the date of his MM? Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fuller Posted 11 August , 2004 Share Posted 11 August , 2004 Hello Scott 1295 was his TF / pre war number and the 6 digit one was allocated by March 1917. It brought the TF numbering in lline with the rest of the army basically. Sorry mate, not an E Lancs buff myself, but look here http://www.1914-1918.net/42div.htm. 126th Brigade 42 Division for battalion overview. Can help with what they were doing Jan to Dec 1915, but not 1918 Im afraid. Likely to be some specialists in the E Lancs here though! Did he make it through the war? HAve you got his MIC, papers etc yet? If not, can point you in their direction ... The 1/5th 2nd Liet AV Smith earned a VC in Dec 1915 I notice. ANyway, let me know if can help, otherwise, good luck to you! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fuller Posted 11 August , 2004 Share Posted 11 August , 2004 Soz mate, was rushing & forgot the most important bits! What was his name etc and ave u got a picture? (amazing what can be found sometimes from a pic). Worth posting anything you have here scott and see what meat can be added. The 1295 number and the regiment he was in suggests he was pre war TF. (The 1/5th were a TF unit.) In which case, likely to have signed up early Aug 1914, like the other TF's. Small chance thats not the case, but more than likely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 11 August , 2004 Share Posted 11 August , 2004 Do any of you guys know anything on the 1/5 East Lans? around March 25 1918 the date of his MM? Scott. The next 6 posts are what the regimental history has to say for the 1/5th Bn between March 23rd and March 26th 1918... Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 11 August , 2004 Share Posted 11 August , 2004 (1) 1295 on 1915 Trio & 200109 on MM, did he join very early in the war as his service number is 1295? With a number as low as 1295 I would suggest that he had probably enlisted into the TF circa 1912~3,when the Battalion strength would have been around 500~800 Men,The TF was created in 1908 with numbers starting @ "1",& allowing for natural wastage up to the 1910s one usually finds that men in TF Battalions with numbers below 2250/2500 are pre August 1914 Enlisters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scott leader Posted 11 August , 2004 Share Posted 11 August , 2004 Thanks a lot for the infomation guys. CROONAERT - great help!! Thanks Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 11 August , 2004 Share Posted 11 August , 2004 Scott A couple of things. There's an extensive and brilliant article about the 1917 renumbering of the TF in the "TF Study Group" area on the Long, Long Trail. Well worth a read. Is the date you have for the MM award the date when it appeared in the London Gazette? If so, the actual event would have preceded it by about 3-4 months or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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