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Great War books in 2013


Alan Tucker

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1. Jeremy Paxman - 'day to day experience of being British during the FWW'

2. Book on causes by Margaret MacMillan (only historian in her family)

3. Early months of the war. Max Hastings

4. Anthology of poems. Carol Ann Duffy

5. How doctors coped

6.Role of the RN

7.Creation of the IWGC

8.Role of Eton old boys in the War

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The Eton one is by Alexandra Churchill, who I think is a member here. That should certainly be worth looking out for. Max Hastings is always good, in my opinion, but he does spread himself around a lot. Paxman's sounds very dubious. Hasn't the IWGC been covered in "The Unending Vigil"?

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Yes, I am not sure about the yawn. Is it relating to the subject matter of the books, the post or what?

Roger

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There do seem some familiar themes there, and I wonder how Jeremy Paxman has the time to do enough quality research to write a book. Causes, anthologies of poems and the first months are surely well-worn themes. Numbers 5, 7 and 8 do seem more original.

Moonraker

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I'm afraid I don't know who the MacMillan lady is so can't comment on her product. 5, 6 and 7 depend on the author, I imagine, and I have given up buying anything by Max Hastings, whose writing style really grates.

I'm sure the world is awaiting yet another anthology of GW poetry.

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My yawn was an expression of emotion at the tedium of the list of books. There are huge areas of the Great War that have yet to receive much or even any decent coverage in terms of published work, but hey, why not go over ground that has been repeatedly covered before?

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Publishers and the buying public that's the issue , a mate of mine has had over 20 books published on the Napoleonic Wars , whilst discussing his new project with his publisher the comment was made that any book on the Zulu War has a good chance of making it in to print ? The reason being that when ever a census is taken as to what book would you buy almost always at the top is ,Zulu War ! Good news if your name is Ian Knight !

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Thanks for the clarification Chris. I was genuinely unsure. And you are probably right.

Roger

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I am inclined to agree. There are a number of areas I want:-

Sue Light's definitive book on nursing in the Great War

Reliable publications on the war in Italy and Salonika.

THE book on the Eastern Front

Etc

Etc

But then, I would also like a really good book on the little studied War or 1812 (I enjoyed the war at sea in the book by Teddy Roosevelt)

I suppose I ought to stop making such a list, lest someone replies something along the lines of

"Don't just sit there....write it!"

Bruce

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Sue Light's definitive book on nursing in the Great War

Bruce

Yes please!

Roger

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Given that the tag for this topic refers to the Sunday Times, where in it does this list of books appear? I've looked through my copy & can't find it.

Simon

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It doesn't. I think it is a list of books that Bruce would like to see written.

Roger

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I'm afraid I don't know who the MacMillan lady is so can't comment on her product. 5, 6 and 7 depend on the author, I imagine, and I have given up buying anything by Max Hastings, whose writing style really grates.

I'm sure the world is awaiting yet another anthology of GW poetry.

MacMillan wrote a very good book on Versailles but is unfortunately related to Dan Snow!!!

Given that the tag for this topic refers to the Sunday Times, where in it does this list of books appear? I've looked through my copy & can't find it.

Simon

Main paper with a page of cultural projections for 2013. Page 14 bottom right for those who cannot read!

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Ouch!

Bruce

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But then, I would also like a really good book on the little studied War or 1812 (I enjoyed the war at sea in the book by Teddy Roosevelt)

Bruce

Off topic I know but if this subject interests you further Bruce I can recommend Ian Toll's 'Six Frigates'

http://ianwtoll.com/six-frigates

cheers Martin B

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Thanks, Martin....just bought a copy for 1p.

Bruce

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MacMillan wrote a very good book on Versailles but is unfortunately related to Dan Snow!!!

Shall we have a whip-round for a "Deepest Sympathy" card?

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Sounds like Max Hastings has a string of WW1 books planned then if he's just focusing on the early months (for now), just like he has for WW2. Luckily I like his writing style so. I just hope Dan Snow hasn't the same idea in mind ... with accompanying DVDs, T-shirts, etc ...

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Since you mentioned the War of 1812......

I know-off topic-I will return to ranks... Still, you must admit that is pretty awesome....

Edited by rose of picardy
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I appreciated it......so please remain a second looie! (Is that how you ex-colonials say second leftenant?)

:w00t:

Bruce

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Main paper with a page of cultural projections for 2013. Page 14 bottom right for those who cannot read!

I was looking in the Arts and Books section of the News Review, where one would expect such fluff to appear. Gee, a book about the role of the Royal Navy? That's never been done before. Not. It'll probably be cr*p judging by the majority of those writing Naval History at the moment.

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My yawn was an expression of emotion at the tedium of the list of books. There are huge areas of the Great War that have yet to receive much or even any decent coverage in terms of published work, but hey, why not go over ground that has been repeatedly covered before?

Quite true, Chris....but with regards to 'ground covered before' (love the analogy, by the way!) why not? An awful lot of decent stuff and, let's be honest, drivel, has been published within the last twenty or so years about, say, the 1916 Somme offensive, but are you suggesting that discussion of such should cease in written form simply because the subject has been covered before? History, as a discipline itself, is not simply about recording and observing facts, but also about analysing and interpreting them; interpretations and viewpoints change with time and with the availability of sources and information, so it is quite right to accept (even grudgingly) a work that is flawed or inaccurate, even if it stands only to provoke one's own or group's correctives. I can personally think of at least one writer, still publishing, whom I would challenge on style, articulation and interpretation, and who's work I hold in pretty low regard as a consequence; but I would not deny him the right to publish his views and I even own some of his tomes, all of which focus on campaigns and aspects of the Western Front that have been covered in depth elsewhere.

Regards,

Andy

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If a continuing focus on the Western Front means just more of what Lord Flasheart called 'the blood, the noise, the endless poetry', then I'd agree that the subject has been done to death. But there are still plenty of topics on the Western Front still to be done and, as Andy says, interpretations change too. (IMO, any work that fails to mention the poets and the poetry should get an immediate star.) Nevertheless, it's incumbent on the government and its advisory committees to ensure that all regions where the war was fought should be given proper consideration, as should all allied combatants. Nor should the fact that two of your EU partners were the enemy be swept under the carpet. Look what happened with the bicentennial of Trafalgar. Quite a farce. How to test whether the programme has worked? Do a survey in 2019 and if 20% know that we won the war, and half the newspaper editors know that there weren't a million dead Britons on the Somme, that would be a start.

Mike

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