Uncle George Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 I get them when you give them away: Victor Earnest Lee http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/a-bruthen-boy-14-ernie-lee-fooled-wwi-enlistment-officers-twice/story-fnkfnspy-1227014116577 Yes! Ernie Lee: "reputedly Australias youngest soldier, Victor Ernest Lee, known locally at Bruthen in the far east of Victoria as Ernie, was just 14 when he signed up... "Several times he was charged with being absent without leave, although it was said he was trying to find brother John, somewhere else in the lines. "They never did find each other...He never came across his older brother...who was killed a month before war's end." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 On 2015/03/08 at 00:19, Wigwhammer said: But whilst looking for UG's man I have found some interesting and scurrilous characters and tales, scurrious being the apposite word for this photo: I doubt anybody knows their individual names, but who are they? Cheers Colin 'Meet the Gang coz the boys are here!' Are these the concert party the Anzac Coves? "The Anzac Coves Dispensers of joy and jollity Fun and frivolity" http://ww1.sl.nsw.gov.au/stories/anzac-coves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 So, now we have WITLGOAF?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigwhammer Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 'Meet the Gang coz the boys are here!' Are these the concert party the Anzac Coves? "The Anzac Coves Dispensers of joy and jollity Fun and frivolity" http://ww1.sl.nsw.gov.au/stories/anzac-coves No - these diggers, much as we might chuckle about it today, certainly did not dispense joy and jollity at the time. More likely they provoked fury, indignation and blown tops.... They may well have been responsible for Haig renewing his efforts to have death sentences actually carried out in the AIF. Cheers Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 So, now we have WITLGOAF?!? Who is this little group of Aussie funsters. It's not, is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 No - these diggers, much as we might chuckle about it today, certainly did not dispense joy and jollity at the time. More likely they provoked fury, indignation and blown tops.... They may well have been responsible for Haig renewing his efforts to have death sentences actually carried out in the AIF. Cheers Colin "These were the men who went absent and deserted, caught or concealed VD, got drunk and fought their comrades, who stole, malingered, behaved insolently toward officers or committed more serious offences, including rape and murder.'' http://www.smh.com.au/national/portrait-of-the-anzacs-deserters-more-interested-in-booze-brawls-and-sex-20100801-111f3.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 (edited) Is it Robert Hines,"The souvenir King"? EDIT: OOps. Perhaps I could have saved face by pretending that my suggestion was for Colin`s post, but I must be honest and say that it was directed at U.G.`s man. Didn`t spot that it had been solved. Sorry Colin. Great find, UG. Colin. Are they the Victoria cross winners hijacked to help with recruitment? Edited 7 March , 2015 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigwhammer Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 "These were the men who went absent and deserted, caught or concealed VD, got drunk and fought their comrades, who stole, malingered, behaved insolently toward officers or committed more serious offences, including rape and murder.'' http://www.smh.com.au/national/portrait-of-the-anzacs-deserters-more-interested-in-booze-brawls-and-sex-20100801-111f3.html Is it Robert Hines,"The souvenir King"? EDIT: OOps. Perhaps I could have saved face by pretending that my suggestion was for Colin`s post, but I must be honest and say that it was directed at U.G.`s man. Didn`t spot that it had been solved. Sorry Colin. Great find, UG. Colin. Are they the Victoria cross winners hijacked to help with recruitment? UG has got them, but more specifically it was a group of Aussie deserters who presumably went along to a village photographer, had their picture taken and printed as a postcard. They then wrote a loving message on the card and sent it to the Assistant Provost Marshal in Le Havre, before going their several ways never to be heard of again. I'd like to have been a fly on the wall when he saw his post! More details and the exact text they wrote can be seen here: http://static.booktopia.com.au/pdf/9781741964806-1.pdf Cheers Colin EDIT: You've got to hand it to the Aussies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 What is this ? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 UG has got them Flippin `eck, I`m losing the plot! Another great find, Colin. Well solved by an on fire UG. What is this ? ? ? Judging by what looks like a clasp on the back, I would say it`s a broach of some kind. The inlay looks like bone. In fact it strikes me as a pretty gruesome object, and I wouldn`t be surprised if the bone was taken as some kind of grisly trophy, a la "Here`s a sweetheart broach, made from the first hun I killed".? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 Just a bit of fun here, but if you think the Aussies were an ill-disciplined lot, take a look at this rabble. Only one of them can manage a proper salute. Who is he??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 Judging by what looks like a clasp on the back, I would say it`s a broach of some kind. The inlay looks like bone. In fact it strikes me as a pretty gruesome object, and I wouldn`t be surprised if the bone was taken as some kind of grisly trophy, a la "Here`s a sweetheart broach, made from the first hun I killed".? You have so very nearly got to the right answer, NF. It is not quite so unpleasant as you guess, however, "A First World War soldier whose left leg was shattered during the Battle of the Somme, used part of his thigh bone to fashion a brooch for his girlfriend Lizzie Hunter." Sergeant Thomas Kitching was serving with the 12th Battalion, Durham Light Infantry. Sgt Kitching and Lizzie got married after the war. http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/incredible-story-ww1-soldier-made-brooch-sweetheart-thigh-bone-left-leg-shattered-battle-somme.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 You have so very nearly got to the right answer, NF. It is not quite so unpleasant as you guess, however, "A First World War soldier whose left leg was shattered during the Battle of the Somme, used part of his thigh bone to fashion a brooch for his girlfriend Lizzie Hunter." Sergeant Thomas Kitching was serving with the 12th Battalion, Durham Light Infantry. Sgt Kitching and Lizzie got married after the war. http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/incredible-story-ww1-soldier-made-brooch-sweetheart-thigh-bone-left-leg-shattered-battle-somme.html And they say romance is dead eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 So, now we have WITLGOAF?!? Or even WTFAITA? Something I often ask myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 On 2015/03/08 at 05:53, neverforget said: Just a bit of fun here, but if you think the Aussies were an ill-disciplined lot, take a look at this rabble. Only one of them can manage a proper salute. It took a Field Marshal to show how not to do it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 It took a Field Marshal to show how not to do it: Yes, and also, in his case, how not to salute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 7 March , 2015 Admin Share Posted 7 March , 2015 On 2015/03/08 at 05:53, neverforget said: Just a bit of fun here, but if you think the Aussies were an ill-disciplined lot, take a look at this rabble. Only one of them can manage a proper salute. Jackie, the mascot of 3 South African Infanty Brigade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 It took a Field Marshal to show how not to do it:That is Sir John French, landing in France in August 1914.Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 Jackie, the mascot of 3 South African Infanty Brigade The very same, Michelle. Well played. http://www.samvoa.org/jackie.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 March , 2015 Share Posted 7 March , 2015 To keep us going, someone who commanded 5000 men. An author, who wrote a book that inspired three different films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 8 March , 2015 Share Posted 8 March , 2015 On 2015/03/08 at 08:47, neverforget said: To keep us going, someone who commanded 5000 men. Is this AEW Mason, author of 'The Four Feathers'? He served in the Manchester Regiment, and, apparently, the RMLI and Naval Intelligence during the GW. (There have been three film versions of that book. I don't get the 5000 men clue, however. Duke? York?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 8 March , 2015 Share Posted 8 March , 2015 Who is this Bader of the steppes ? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 8 March , 2015 Share Posted 8 March , 2015 (edited) Is this AEW Mason, author of 'The Four Feathers'? He served in the Manchester Regiment, and, apparently, the RMLI and Naval Intelligence during the GW. (There have been three film versions of that book. I don't get the 5000 men clue, however. Duke? York?) Great suggestion uncle, but not Mason. The 5000 men would allude to the amount of battalions he was in command of. 4000 being the norm for a Brigadier General. The book/films would seem to drag us down once more into the macabre, as their subject matter is the devourment of human flesh. EDIT> His book is auto-biographical, and the men he commanded were surely the most stubborn of all troops. Uncle, is your man Boris Sergievsky by any chance? Edited 8 March , 2015 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 8 March , 2015 Share Posted 8 March , 2015 Uncle, is your man Boris Sergievsky by any chance? Not him, no. My splendidly-named chap was, amongst a whole lot of other things, a major in the US Army Air Corps Reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 8 March , 2015 Share Posted 8 March , 2015 and the men he commanded were surely the most stubborn of all troops. Is he the commander of the Zion Mule Corps, Lieutenant-Colonel John Henry Patterson? EDIT - yes it must be him - I see he wrote 'Man-Eaters of Tsavo'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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