neverforget Posted 7 July , 2015 Share Posted 7 July , 2015 He refused to mine coal for the German navy. One has to ask why he would be in such a position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 7 July , 2015 Share Posted 7 July , 2015 Prisoner of War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 7 July , 2015 Share Posted 7 July , 2015 Nice to see the old thread cracking along again. I saw the clue for Shout and seriously thought about searching for an officer called Ghostbuster; I'm clearly not dealing from a full deck. What was interesting was how he got himself wounded and then killed leading from the front. One of the points that Pete Hart makes in his book on Gallipoli is the number of officers killed doing things that you have subalterns for; in the phrase "a heroic dead officer" the keyword is dead not heroic. It is a theme that Gordon Corrigan touches on too. From the descriptions of him it is hard to see Shout doing anything but leading from the front. A conundrum I think. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 July , 2015 Share Posted 7 July , 2015 Prisoner of War. Indeed. This is where he started clocking up the miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 July , 2015 Share Posted 7 July , 2015 Nice to see the old thread cracking along again. I saw the clue for Shout and seriously thought about searching for an officer called Ghostbuster; I'm clearly not dealing from a full deck. What was interesting was how he got himself wounded and then killed leading from the front. One of the points that Pete Hart makes in his book on Gallipoli is the number of officers killed doing things that you have subalterns for; in the phrase "a heroic dead officer" the keyword is dead not heroic. It is a theme that Gordon Corrigan touches on too. From the descriptions of him it is hard to see Shout doing anything but leading from the front. A conundrum I think. Pete. When I saw his quote "I am here with you boys to the finish." I liked him straight away. Looked like such a gentle chap. C`est la guerre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 July , 2015 Share Posted 7 July , 2015 I must away to bed now, as I have a 4.15 start, but hopefully you can now wrap up our Welsh miner, who had no connection to rugby, but does have a connection with baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 7 July , 2015 Share Posted 7 July , 2015 Got him! Prisoner of War. Escaped. Later killed in a colliery accident. Very sad. Robert Phillips. http://www.healeyhero.co.uk/rescue/Wales/Wales-B.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 8 July , 2015 Share Posted 8 July , 2015 Well played! If I'm not mistaken Wales' only "home run" of Ww1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 8 July , 2015 Share Posted 8 July , 2015 Wales' only "home run" of Ww1 Doh! Baseball!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 8 July , 2015 Share Posted 8 July , 2015 Here's an interesting chap. A very good egg. Who is he ? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 8 July , 2015 Share Posted 8 July , 2015 He's not British is he? Russian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 8 July , 2015 Share Posted 8 July , 2015 He's not British is he? Russian? Neither British nor Russian. In fact, Italian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 8 July , 2015 Share Posted 8 July , 2015 But obviously not Mussolini who most definitely was an egg of the baddest variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 8 July , 2015 Share Posted 8 July , 2015 But obviously not Mussolini who most definitely was an egg of the baddest variety. Indeed. This chap was a noted anti-fascist: he served in the Spanish Civil War, and with the SOE in the Second war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 8 July , 2015 Share Posted 8 July , 2015 It's not Randolfo Pacciardi? Ticks some of the boxes, but not SOE as far as I can see. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 8 July , 2015 Share Posted 8 July , 2015 It's not Randolfo Pacciardi? Ticks some of the boxes, but not SOE as far as I can see. Pete. No. He wrote what has been described as "the Classic Italian Memoir of World War I." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 8 July , 2015 Share Posted 8 July , 2015 Emilio Lussu khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 9 July , 2015 Share Posted 9 July , 2015 Emilio Lussu khaki Yes, that's him. His memoir ('A Soldier on the Southern Front', first published in 1945) "is a magnificent, angry, ironic account of a year of trench warfare, which still packs the same punch as it did 70 years ago. Lussu takes apart the army hierarchy by depicting them as vicious bureaucrats, or pompous psychopaths." It is reviewed here: http://www.historytoday.com/reviews/soldier-southern-front His wiki page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilio_Lussu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 13 July , 2015 Share Posted 13 July , 2015 ‘Is there anybody there?’ said the Traveller, Knocking on the moonlit door; And his horse in the silence champed the grasses Of the forest’s ferny floor: And a bird flew up out of the turret, Above the Traveller’s head: And he smote upon the door again a second time; ‘Is there anybody there?’ he said... Walter de La Mare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 13 July , 2015 Share Posted 13 July , 2015 ‘Is there anybody there?’ said the Traveller, Knocking on the moonlit door; And his horse in the silence champed the grasses Of the forest’s ferny floor: And a bird flew up out of the turret, Above the Traveller’s head: And he smote upon the door again a second time; ‘Is there anybody there?’ he said... Walter de La Mare "It is I, Leclerc!" Here`s someone I came across as usual, whilst looking for someone else. Not well known as such, but a very outstanding and distinguished medical father, who was made a "Sir" in 1919. Interestingly. His father used his influence to gain him a commission, despite his son`s poor eyesight, and he was subsequently killed as a result. This left him wracked in anguish and guilt, just like Mr. Kipling.EDIT:Mr. Conan-Doyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 13 July , 2015 Admin Share Posted 13 July , 2015 Kingsley Conan Doyle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 13 July , 2015 Share Posted 13 July , 2015 Kingsley Conan Doyle? Sorry Michelle. I must have been having one of my elderly moments when I mentioned Kipling. I mean`t to say Conan-Doyle and not Kipling of course, and will edit my post accordingly. So it`s the same story for both sons. Both had poor eyesight, but were given commissions due to their influential fathers. Both were killed. My man at Passchendaele. We are more familiar with Conan-Doyle, but similarly, my man will no doubt be found via his famous medical father. "Father" is a very telling clue too......(And not in any religious role.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 13 July , 2015 Share Posted 13 July , 2015 A good one. His father who was was one of the greats in his field, and was indeed a "Father" of something else, once said: "Listen to your patient, he is telling you what is the matter with him!" Or words to that effect. And had "Nodes" named after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 13 July , 2015 Share Posted 13 July , 2015 From Dai's clue I come to Edward Revere Osler, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 13 July , 2015 Share Posted 13 July , 2015 From Dai's clue I come to Edward Revere Osler, Correctly so. Son of the "Father of modern medicine." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Osler A good one. His father who was was one of the greats in his field, and was indeed a "Father" of something else, once said: "Listen to your patient, he is telling you what is the matter with him!" Or words to that effect. And had "Nodes" named after him. Well sussed, Dai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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