Uncle George Posted 23 October , 2015 Share Posted 23 October , 2015 Supply. Not water, or munitions, but food. It is the Viscount Devonport who was one time Minister of Food Control during the Great War. Indeed so. Here's a link to the Ministry of Food Control's National Kitchens - "It was thought that Public Kitchens were to be inflicted on the poor as some kind of punishment for a crime unstated": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_kitchens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 23 October , 2015 Share Posted 23 October , 2015 I have to declare an interest here Steve; my friend Paul and my sis are plannng some work on the history of women's football as part of the EFC Heritage Society's links with Everton Ladies. I have a Manchester City supporting mate and I think his grandmother played for Dick, Kerr Ladies, of Dick, Kerr's Ladies as it is sometimes written. Dick, Kerr & Co were a Scottish company making locomotives for the War Office and had a factory in Preston of course.The totally wonderful Lily Parr sounds like my kind of girl..... Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 October , 2015 Share Posted 23 October , 2015 I have to declare an interest here Steve; my friend Paul and my sis are plannng some work on the history of women's football as part of the EFC Heritage Society's links with Everton Ladies. I have a Manchester City supporting mate and I think his grandmother played for Dick, Kerr Ladies, of Dick, Kerr's Ladies as it is sometimes written. Dick, Kerr & Co were a Scottish company making locomotives for the War Office and had a factory in Preston of course.The totally wonderful Lily Parr sounds like my kind of girl..... Pete That`s amazing! I reckon that one had your name on it then. I think I`ve fallen for Lily too Indeed so. Here's a link to the Ministry of Food Control's National Kitchens - "It was thought that Public Kitchens were to be inflicted on the poor as some kind of punishment for a crime unstated": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_kitchens Well that`s the food and drink of it then. Nice one Uncle George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 Well that`s the food and drink of it then. Nice one Uncle George. Here's WSC on a later occasion, rejecting the proposed name 'Communal Feeding Centre': "It is an odious expression, sugggestive of Communism and the workhouse. I suggest you call them 'British Restaurants'. Everybody associates the word 'restaurant' with a good meal, and they may as well have the name if they cannot get anything else." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 The central character here is shown with his two artistically driven sisters. He commanded a brigade, and then a division, before getting involved with intelligence. All three were descended from Queen Victoria. I have included his sisters because one was awarded the Légion d'honneur, (though goodness knows why) and the other received the Italian Bronze Medal of Military Valour, which was more understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 The central character here is shown with his two artistically driven sisters. He commanded a brigade, and then a division, before getting involved with intelligence. All three were descended from Queen Victoria. sf.jpgbr.jpgst.jpg I have included his sisters because one was awarded the Légion d'honneur, (though goodness knows why) and the other received the Italian Bronze Medal of Military Valour, which was more understandable. He is Lord Edward Gleichen. The sister awarded the Italian bravery award was Lady Helena Gleichen. The other sister was Lady Feodora. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 Continuing my theme of supply. Food and water have been covered. ('Supply' is, when I think about it, too vulgar a word in this instance.) But anyway: who is this ? ? ? (Pete will I imagine have the answer.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 He is Lord Edward Gleichen. The sister awarded the Italian bravery award was Lady Helena Gleichen. The other sister was Lady Feodora. Comprehensively correct U.G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 Continuing my theme of supply. Food and water have been covered. ('Supply' is, when I think about it, too vulgar a word in this instance.) But anyway: who is this ? ? ? (Pete will I imagine have the answer.) I`ve spent quite a while on this one, and still scratching my head. I`ve been down tracks marked "medic" and "photography". I also wondered if she was some sort of entertainer and looked into that, but so far I`ve just drawn blanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 (Pete will I imagine have the answer.) I've completely wilted under the pressure of expectation. A decorated lady in an Adrian helmet standing on a muddy battlefield with a camera on a tripod amidst cheery poilus. A photograph which continues the theme of supply. I'm sorry, I haven't a clue. The only thing I can say is I don't think she played for Dick, Kerr Ladies. Speaking of clues are there any on offer Uncle? Not that I'm desperate....... Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 For we need not only food, and water. Emotional support, moral support: these are important too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 Would this have anything to do with the marraines de guerre, the network of French women who adopted poilus and provided support for them? Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 Would this have anything to do with the marraines de guerre, the network of French women who adopted poilu's and provided support for them? Pete. Yes! This lady was a marraine not for one individual poilu. (You have a special interest in this particular area, I think.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 At a guess this is going to be something to do with Verdun, I've heard of poilus accumulating multiple marraines (one had 44 and ended up deserting according to Alastair Horne) but not of the other way around. Now I am intrigued, cracking post uncle. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 At a guess this is going to be something to do with Verdun, I've heard of poilus accumulating multiple marraines (one had 44 and ended up deserting according to Alastair Horne) but not of the other way around. Now I am intrigued, cracking post uncle. Pete. Yes, Verdun it is. To be more specific, this lady was marraine du fort de Douaumont. There, I've given it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 You are too generous uncle: La vicomtesse Benoist d’Azy. I'd love to know more about the lady, particularly as Douaumont was occupied by the Germans for most of 1916. I've got Christina Holstein's book on the fort somewhere, I'll go and see if she mentions her. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 Yes, that's her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 24 October , 2015 Author Share Posted 24 October , 2015 Grief ! You learn something every day ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 24 October , 2015 Share Posted 24 October , 2015 Another cracking find U.G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 25 October , 2015 Share Posted 25 October , 2015 La vicomtesse Benoist dAzy. I'd love to know more about the lady, Pete. See from page 150 here. Please read it: https://archive.org/stream/alumnaeassociati00stma#page/150/mode/2up Carrie - how one's heart yields to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 25 October , 2015 Share Posted 25 October , 2015 See from page 150 here. Please read it: https://archive.org/stream/alumnaeassociati00stma#page/150/mode/2up Carrie - how one's heart yields to her. Thanks for this link U.G. I`ve read up until she has been awarded her croix de guerre. An extremely harrowing read but fantastic stuff. I`ll be re-visiting it later. I`m going to lump this fellow in with your "supply" theme, but we`re stretching it a little. He did provide a service however, which led to great improvements, with a connection to one of your recent posts. Aside from this contribution, he served in a regular infantry unit, and was twice decorated. A very clever chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 25 October , 2015 Share Posted 25 October , 2015 Aha. One I know. He was a doctor.........Hurrah! ...and a politician .........Booooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 26 October , 2015 Share Posted 26 October , 2015 Aha. One I know. He was a doctor.........Hurrah! ...and a politician .........Booooo! And highly honoured in civvy street too. Would you care to put this one to bed Dai, orr anyone else for that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 26 October , 2015 Share Posted 26 October , 2015 John Boyd Orr aka Lord Boyd-Orr. Physician, politician, Nobel Laureate. Researched into link between poverty and malnutrition. MC, DSO. MP (Glasgow Universities) An all round first class chap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 26 October , 2015 Share Posted 26 October , 2015 Well done, Dai. Very interesting fellow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boyd_Orr,_1st_Baron_Boyd-Orr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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