Uncle George Posted 31 October , 2015 Share Posted 31 October , 2015 Cheer up mate. It might never `appen.pi.jpg Had shedloads of titles, and resigned from post after post. Referred to his first four children as a "rum lot". His fifth was educated at Eton. That's Carson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 31 October , 2015 Share Posted 31 October , 2015 That's Carson. T`is indeed. One of the very few non-Royals to be afforded a state funeral. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Carson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 31 October , 2015 Share Posted 31 October , 2015 Can you name these two brothers??? Both Guardsmen. EDIT: Both authors, and also a sister with artistic leanings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 1 November , 2015 Share Posted 1 November , 2015 #3253 I see Carson is pictured wearing a bow tie sporting a motif of "O"s. O for Oscar I presume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 1 November , 2015 Share Posted 1 November , 2015 Is that a wilde guess? I don't think I have ever seen a bow tie sit more uncomfortably on anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 1 November , 2015 Share Posted 1 November , 2015 T`is indeed. One of the very few non-Royals to be afforded a state funeral. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Carson I think Wikipedia is wrong in this case. He may have been given a public funeral (as indeed was Margaret Thatcher) but I don't think it had the full trappings of a State funeral. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 1 November , 2015 Share Posted 1 November , 2015 #3256 Are they Thorndikes? I only know of one male-Russell, a novelist famous for the Dr Syn books, who had an actress sister-Sybil(Dame). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 1 November , 2015 Share Posted 1 November , 2015 Apologies for the delayed response. Not Thorndikes. Back with another clue shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 1 November , 2015 Share Posted 1 November , 2015 The Sitwells? Ron Edit: Osbert and Sacheverell Sitwell. After posting this I checked Wikipedia and they were both in the Grenadier Guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 1 November , 2015 Share Posted 1 November , 2015 Spot on Ron.Well played. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sitwells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 1 November , 2015 Share Posted 1 November , 2015 On the broad theme of scandals/rackets. Here's a very good egg. Who is he ? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 1 November , 2015 Share Posted 1 November , 2015 Is the cap badge USN or USMC? Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 1 November , 2015 Share Posted 1 November , 2015 Is the cap badge USN or USMC? Ron USMC, Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 2 November , 2015 Share Posted 2 November , 2015 On the broad theme of scandals/rackets. Here's a very good egg. Who is he ? ? ? He is the author of the "war is a racket" speech; Smedley Butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 2 November , 2015 Share Posted 2 November , 2015 He is the author of the "war is a racket" speech; Smedley Butler. Very well done NF. He was highly decorated; on the side of the angels during the Bonus Army outrage; exposed the 'Business Plot': https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler 'War Is A Racket' was the name of his book. Here's how it starts: "War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 2 November , 2015 Share Posted 2 November , 2015 He was a top-bloke in my estimation, U.G. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 2 November , 2015 Share Posted 2 November , 2015 Briefly revisiting Uncle George`s last theme of supply; these four gentlemen would have have, in turn, been well high on the Tommies` list of V.I.P.s. The four, in order: 1 2 3 4 They are in order of succession during the course of the war, and not in order of preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 2 November , 2015 Share Posted 2 November , 2015 No. 2 is Herbert Samuel: leader of the Liberal Party between the wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 2 November , 2015 Share Posted 2 November , 2015 No. 2 is Herbert Samuel: leader of the Liberal Party between the wars. That`s correct. Well spotted. Can you make the connection that would fit the clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 2 November , 2015 Share Posted 2 November , 2015 That`s correct. Well spotted. Can you make the connection that would fit the clue? Postmasters General: Charles Hobhouse, Joseph Pease, Albert Illingworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 2 November , 2015 Share Posted 2 November , 2015 Postmasters General: Charles Hobhouse, Joseph Pease, Albert Illingworth. Correct of course. I think we all have some idea how important the soldiers` mail was to them. Rather interesting article here concerning the son of Jack Pease. http://www.thenortheastatwar.co.uk/in_your_town/darlington/letters-from-the-trenches How on earth they did it I don`t know, but a round of applause for the postal service for the incredible service they performed in the G.W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 2 November , 2015 Share Posted 2 November , 2015 Here's another who would have been Tommy's Favourite Person, that's if the supply chain was working properly, and had he not died in 1914: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 3 November , 2015 Share Posted 3 November , 2015 His produce was commonly believed by Tommy to be pilfered by the Army's own supply service! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 3 November , 2015 Share Posted 3 November , 2015 I've been looking into this for ages, and the best I can come up with at the moment is a chap named Wood. Can't find his first name but his company was in Liverpool. I refer, no doubt incorrectly to Wood's navy rum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 3 November , 2015 Share Posted 3 November , 2015 I was sure he was this chap - William Wills, tobacco magnate, philanthropist and politician. But he died in 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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