Uncle George Posted 20 November , 2015 Share Posted 20 November , 2015 Ah. Then it is yet another Desert man. Archibald Wavell. Yes it is. A remarkable man: lost an eye at Second Ypres; wrote a biography of Allenby ('Allenby: A Study in Greatness' 1941); and much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 20 November , 2015 Share Posted 20 November , 2015 My turn. Should be straightforward. No clues. Who is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 20 November , 2015 Share Posted 20 November , 2015 My turn. Should be straightforward. No clues. Who is he? Straightforward. Is he a footballer? (NF will know who he is very quickly, I would imagine.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 20 November , 2015 Share Posted 20 November , 2015 No he is not a sportsman. Not as far as I am aware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 21 November , 2015 Share Posted 21 November , 2015 OK. You must have assumed he was a Welshman, and you would be correct. That, and his medal must really narrow it down a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 21 November , 2015 Share Posted 21 November , 2015 OK. You must have assumed he was a Welshman, and you would be correct. That, and his medal must really narrow it down a lot. He looks like Frederick Barter VC MC. Is it him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 21 November , 2015 Share Posted 21 November , 2015 He looks like Frederick Barter VC MC. Is it him? Yes it is. In the news (in Wales at least) recently, having had a memorial plaque unveiled at Cardiff's Cathays cemetery. He was Cardiff's first (and only??) VC of the Great War. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-34770955 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 21 November , 2015 Share Posted 21 November , 2015 Yes it is. In the news (in Wales at least) recently, having had a memorial plaque unveiled at Cardiff's Cathays cemetery. He was Cardiff's first (and only??) VC of the Great War. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-34770955 Interesting - I was a student at UCC in the 80s. I remember passing and noting a statue of a GW officer every time I walked into the town centre. I've found him online - Lord Ninian Crichton-Stuart, MP from 1910, killed in action at the Hohenzollern Redoubt 2 October 1915. His statue stands in Gorsedd Gardens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 21 November , 2015 Share Posted 21 November , 2015 Lord Ninian Crichton-Stuart, MP . His statue stands in Gorsedd Gardens. You'll know he was the son of the Marquess and Marchioness of Bute who owned most of Cardiff basically. The locals were so grateful to the family that they named a pub after her ladyship. http://www.cardiffians.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=542.0 She no longer exists (i..e the pub), Frederick Street was overbuilt in the 1970s to build the St. David's Centre and Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scorer Posted 22 November , 2015 Share Posted 22 November , 2015 Cardiff City's old ground, Ninian Park, was named after him as well; the family owned the land! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 22 November , 2015 Share Posted 22 November , 2015 Here's a fine tribute to him: http://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/nostalgia/welsh-history-month-lord-ninian-10216925 "He offered himself a sacrifice for his country and died for his friends. There was not a man in the 6th who would not have followed him to the very death." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 25 November , 2015 Share Posted 25 November , 2015 Great stuff gents. I love the Wavell quote. Here`s another medical chap. Comfortable one this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 25 November , 2015 Share Posted 25 November , 2015 Harvey Cushing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 25 November , 2015 Share Posted 25 November , 2015 Harvey Cushing Right first time, Dai. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Cushing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 25 November , 2015 Share Posted 25 November , 2015 They're a bit easier when you've seen their faces stare out at you from your textbooks as a student. seaJane posted about him a few months ago. This is what I wrote at the time: http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=205182#entry2217543 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 25 November , 2015 Share Posted 25 November , 2015 From one of his papers in 1918: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 25 November , 2015 Share Posted 25 November , 2015 So we are on a theme of medical education. This chap started the war as a medical student, and ended up a prisoner of war! One of medicine's great teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 25 November , 2015 Share Posted 25 November , 2015 Entered medical school aged 16. As a Fourth Year medical Student, in 1914 went off to F&F as a volunteer with the Red Cross. Captured, and whilst a POW, was charged with sabotage, tried , and sentenced to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 25 November , 2015 Share Posted 25 November , 2015 ......but following intervention by an American diplomat, was pardoned, released, and also repatriated. And there's more! (seaJane would get this easily. She must have mentioned his name hundreds of times. As would any current or former medical student). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 26 November , 2015 Share Posted 26 November , 2015 Going's a bit slow today. Got onto the Navy List in 1916 as a 2nd (Surgeon)Lt. Even though he didn't graduate until 1917. Served on board a couple of ships whose names I won't give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 26 November , 2015 Share Posted 26 November , 2015 Going's a bit slow today. Got onto the Navy List in 1916 as a 2nd (Surgeon)Lt. Even though he didn't graduate until 1917. Served on board a couple of ships whose names I won't give. Henry Hamilton Bailey. I see he served in the Royal Navy later in the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 26 November , 2015 Share Posted 26 November , 2015 Yes indeed. Dropped the Henry. Known to medical and surgical students the world over from his textbooks. His" Clinical Signs" and the surgical tome known simply as "Bailey & Love" co-authored with McNeil Love are still in print today. Lost his left index finger in (as the Daily Mail would say) a freak operating accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 26 November , 2015 Share Posted 26 November , 2015 Worked with McNeill Love's grandson Surgeon Capt. McNeill Love until only recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 26 November , 2015 Share Posted 26 November , 2015 Ah. How romantic. You worked "With Love" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 26 November , 2015 Share Posted 26 November , 2015 Dai's wordplay with 'love' has put me in mind of this dashing flyer. Who is he ? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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