David Ridgus Posted 8 May , 2016 Share Posted 8 May , 2016 No idea about this one at the moment. The only monkey I know of to do with the Great War is the one that bit the King of Greece. And I only know that because of yet another WSC florid phrase. The Greek king's death from sepsis contributed to them losing the war with Turkey in the early twenties. Churchill wrote that, "it is no exaggeration to remark that two hundred and fifty thousand people died of this monkey's bite" David PS I'm not sure a tree is the best place to try an escape from a chimp, but I suppose clarity of thought might be a luxury under those circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 8 May , 2016 Share Posted 8 May , 2016 I'm not sure a tree is the best place to try an escape from a chimp, but I suppose clarity of thought might be a luxury under those circumstances Good point. Some accounts have the beast trying to drag the blameless woman up the tree. Which sounds more likely. Details are somewhat murky: the whole incident was heavily censored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 8 May , 2016 Share Posted 8 May , 2016 Got the lady,but the orangutan/gorilla/chimp not a chance, she is the wife of the French President Raymond Poincaré namely Henriette John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 8 May , 2016 Share Posted 8 May , 2016 I trust that the offending primate did not seek political asylum in Hartlepool? Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 8 May , 2016 Share Posted 8 May , 2016 Monkey hangers, who'd have them? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 8 May , 2016 Share Posted 8 May , 2016 Good point. Some accounts have the beast trying to drag the blameless woman up the tree. Which sounds more likely. Details are somewhat murky: the whole incident was heavily censored. This is one of those stories that the more you think about it the odder it gets. Was the poor woman injured? Chimps in particular are ferocious creatures belying the cosy PG Tips image of my youth. Was she alone in the garden? How was she rescued? How did the story leak out? David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 8 May , 2016 Share Posted 8 May , 2016 Hi David You just reminded me of that poor woman in the US who had her face ripped off by her friends "pet" chimp, didn't she have one of ,if not the first., face transplant? Henriette P, another mystery that could do with a bit of research! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Yes. La Première Dame Henriette Poincaré. Wife of the Président de la République. Assaulted by a primate in the garden of the Élysée. The incident was marked by the following celebrated exchange: First Gendarme - "Do you know there's a monkey in the tree?" Inspecteur des Gendarmes - "You hum it son, I'll play it." http://timeandoft.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/our-premiere-dame.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Reports seem to differ as to whether the animal was an orang-utan that had escaped from a circus (or possibly a Library!) or a chimp belonging to a diplomat who lived nearby. But there does seem to have been a news blackout on the incident at the time. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Perhaps the incident inspired this famous poster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Ook! Anyway - two for the price of one. WbW or Who by Whom? The subject of the drawing has been dealt with before. Not sure about the person wielding the graphite. sJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gronksmil Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Yes. La Première Dame Henriette Poincaré. Wife of the Président de la République. Assaulted by a primate in the garden of the Élysée. The incident was marked by the following celebrated exchange: First Gendarme - "Do you know there's a monkey in the tree?" Inspecteur des Gendarmes - "You hum it son, I'll play it." http://timeandoft.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/our-premiere-dame.html Was that a Monkey or Minky ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Ook! Anyway - two for the price of one. WbW or Who by Whom? The subject of the drawing has been dealt with before. Not sure about the person wielding the graphite. sJ Image2.jpg That is artist and surgeon Henry Tonks by John Singer Sargent. JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Correct JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Before this chap ended up in a Russian prison, he wrote a couple of books about his exploits. Do you know what they were??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Before this chap ended up in a Russian prison, he wrote a couple of books about his exploits. Do you know what they were???rs.png Is he Rodion Markovits? His acclaimed book is 'Siberian Garrison'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 (edited) Is he Rodion Markovits? His acclaimed book is 'Siberian Garrison'. He isn`t Markovits, Uncle George. He was involved in intelligence, and died in a Russian jail. Born in Germany, but fluent in Russian. EDIT: On reflection, I haven`t worded my first post very well. When I asked "Do you know what they were?" I was referring to his exploits, not his books. Apologies for any confusion. Edited 9 May , 2016 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Was that a Monkey or Minky ? A monkey. You would need a 'Lissonce' for a Minky. Which costs a lot of 'munneh'. Otherwise it's against the 'Luh'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Do you have evidence for that, Dai Bach, or is it just a shot in the dark? Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Excellent new subthread by seaJane Rather an easy one I know but WbW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Excellent new subthread by seaJane Rather an easy one I know but WbW wit31.png You must be in a very generous mood this evening David, it`s Orpen by Orpen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Hi NF This is a good one took a good time to find, helped by your hints it is Walter Nicolai, leader of the German Secret Service 1913-1919 His first book News Agency His second more powerful writing -Secret Powers - German military intelligence in WW1,used as a blueprint for the Nazis in WW2 John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 And just before I get back to my A Level History coursework marking - an easy Who but I must admit the Whom was new to me David You must be in a very generous mood this evening David, it`s Orpen by Orpen. I did say it was easy, but its a good opportunity to put some terrific portraits up for the Inmates' delectation David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 David you are giving us an easy time John (Jack) Travers Cornwell VC by Ambrose McEvoy John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 9 May , 2016 Share Posted 9 May , 2016 Hi NF This is a good one took a good time to find, helped by your hints it is Walter Nicolai, leader of the German Secret Service 1913-1919 His first book News Agency His second more powerful writing -Secret Powers - German military intelligence in WW1,used as a blueprint for the Nazis in WW2 John It is Walter Nicolai John, as you say. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Nicolai After the Second World War, Nicolai was arrested by the Soviet NKVD, deported from Germany, and interrogated in Moscow. He died while in custody on 4 May 1947 at the Hospital of Moscow's Butyrka Prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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