David Filsell Posted 12 June , 2017 Share Posted 12 June , 2017 I think many would dispute your view of SES? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Wood Posted 12 June , 2017 Share Posted 12 June , 2017 57 minutes ago, voltaire60 said: The less said about the truly horrible F.E. the better. Now-how about this chap.... No, he's not a Victorian undertaker who has just lost his wallet. Again, a minority government of yesteryear is involved. This chap rejoined his regiment at the outbreak of war in 1914 but rose a little higher than his Mess colleagues by the end of it. His career took an unexpected nautical turn sometime later and is highly unusual in that he took part in meetings of a special type of club without ever being a proper member. Chelmsford - 1st Viscount not the town. Interesting political career! Francis Thesiger on the birth certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 12 June , 2017 Share Posted 12 June , 2017 Frederic, actually. Any relation to Wilfred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Wood Posted 12 June , 2017 Share Posted 12 June , 2017 34 minutes ago, seaJane said: Frederic, actually. Any relation to Wilfred? Oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 13 June , 2017 Author Share Posted 13 June , 2017 5 hours ago, seaJane said: Frederic, actually. Any relation to Wilfred? Uncle. Wilfred stayed with him at Viceregal Lodge in 1917, at the same time that Edwin Montagu (Sec of State for India) was also in Delhi for discussions that led to the Montagu-Chelmsford Reforms. I once met Wilfred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 9 hours ago, Phil Wood said: Chelmsford - 1st Viscount not the town. Interesting political career! Francis Thesiger on the birth certificate. Exactly so- Went out to India as a recalled officer of his old regiment in 1914-15- ended the war as Viceroy.Well, its passes the day. Unusual in that a sense of duty (plus usually-as with some others-a word of encouragement from the King) saw him as First Lord of the Admiralty in Macdonald's 1924 minority Labour government- The only former Viceroy to sit in a Labour Cabinet? Though never a member of the party. As with young Stoppage, I saw Wilf. -decades ago now- Some will recall the old TV series from the Sixties called "Adam Adamant" -about an Edwardian gent. frozen in time for 60 years -Well, that was Wilf. in his last decade or so when his longevity made him a celeb. Not a man of bonhomme- he managed to exude an aura of austere. Very much a loner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 (edited) What made this chap the one and only of a WW1 minority??? Edited 13 June , 2017 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 Ernest Edwin Evans (Cherokee-Creek)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 14 minutes ago, trajan said: Ernest Edwin Evans (Cherokee-Creek)? Not him Trajan. Right country but wrong minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 Is he John Otto Siegel (only German-born Medal,of Honor recipient)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 That would have to be my second... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 13 June , 2017 Author Share Posted 13 June , 2017 I don' t know who he is, but I will guess it isn't Siegel, as the first pic appears to show the top of an Army MoH. Siegel was USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 44 minutes ago, Uncle George said: Is he John Otto Siegel (only German-born Medal,of Honor recipient)? 36 minutes ago, trajan said: That would have to be my second... 16 minutes ago, Stoppage Drill said: I don' t know who he is, but I will guess it isn't Siegel, as the first pic appears to show the top of an Army MoH. Siegel was USN. You're correct SD, it isn't Siegel, but you're both agonisingly close Trajan and Uncle George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 John Latham (only English-born [Army] MoH recipient)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 2 minutes ago, Uncle George said: John Latham (only English-born [Army] MoH recipient)? Unbelievably not him either, but the criteria is correct. You were geographically closer with Siegel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 13 June , 2017 Author Share Posted 13 June , 2017 The Serbian American chap . . . Jake Alex ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 13 minutes ago, Stoppage Drill said: The Serbian American chap . . . Jake Alex ? You're getting colder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 Dutch? Ludovicus M. M. Van Iersel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 3 minutes ago, Uncle George said: Dutch? Ludovicus M. M. Van Iersel? No.? You were closer with Siegel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 1 minute ago, neverforget said: No.? You were closer with Siegel. You are enjoying this far too much NF. It is a WiT? of fiendish fiendishness. As usual I have nothing to contribute to the quest other than barracking from the sidelines....... Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 14 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: You are enjoying this far too much NF. It is a WiT? of fiendish fiendishness. As usual I have nothing to contribute to the quest other than barracking from the sidelines....... Pete. I have the medication and facilities ready for when my fellow witters return from their European tour ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 So, he is the only MoH holder of xxx nationality. Shall we work down the list from Algeria or up the list from Zanzibar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 5 minutes ago, seaJane said: So, he is the only MoH holder of xxx nationality. Shall we work down the list from Algeria or up the list from Zanzibar? No-Stop with I for Italy. He is Michael Valente- Only Great War MOH who was Italian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 4 minutes ago, seaJane said: So, he is the only MoH holder of xxx nationality. Shall we work down the list from Algeria or up the list from Zanzibar? Starting at Algeria would get you there quicker. Closer to Germany than Serbia, both geographically and alphabetically. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 13 June , 2017 Share Posted 13 June , 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, voltaire60 said: No-Stop with I for Italy. He is Michael Valente- Only Great War MOH who was Italian Is the correct answer. Well played all, but Mr.V has him.?? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian-American_Medal_of_Honor_recipients http://fonderiausa.com/michael-valente-wwi-medal-of/ Pictures taken from here:https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=9222 And here:https://patch.com/new-york/longbeach/origins-of-michael-valente-day Edited 13 June , 2017 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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