tankengine888 Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Knotty said: That’s the fellow, the image is a crop from a newspaper article shown with his other two compatriots killled at the same time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bethel_Gresham This is a better article from where I got the image https://greatwarpittsburgh.com/?p=108 Lovely! I clicked when I saw 'one of three' Also, I finished school for the term.. but this lad was one and a half years younger than me when he enlisted.. he was to see action at 14 and a few months Edited 6 April , 2023 by tankengine888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, tankengine888 said: Lovely! I clicked when I saw 'one of three' Also, I finished school for the term.. but this lad was one and a half years younger than me when he enlisted.. he was to see action at 14 and a few months Is it James Charles (Jim) Martin? EDIT: Scrub that. Martin was killed in 1915. Edited 6 April , 2023 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, neverforget said: Is it James Charles (Jim) Martin? EDIT: Scrub that. Martin was killed in 1915. For once, I didn't pick an Australian.. though he was in uniform (AIF) in WW2 Edited 6 April , 2023 by tankengine888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 The band leader Victor Silvester enlisted at a young age but don't think that this is him. Assuming that this chap is British then will go for George Maher who served in the Royal lancasters and was found crying in the front line aged 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 3 minutes ago, ilkley remembers said: The band leader Victor Silvester enlisted at a young age but don't think that this is him. Assuming that this chap is British then will go for George Maher who served in the Royal lancasters and was found crying in the front line aged 13 No, not him. I'll give a clue, he didnt enlist into the British Army, but he enlisted in the United Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 1 hour ago, tankengine888 said: he was to see action at 14 and a few months So he was one of the youngest ANZAC, would it be Bill Jackson VC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 2 minutes ago, Knotty said: So he was one of the youngest ANZAC, would it be Bill Jackson VC? No... He didn't get any honours [unless a recommendation for a commission at 16 counts] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, tankengine888 said: I'll give a clue, he didnt enlist into the British Army, but he enlisted in the United Kingdom. So are we talking about someone who enlisted into the Royal Navy? Edited 6 April , 2023 by ilkley remembers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 20 minutes ago, ilkley remembers said: So are we talking about someone who enlisted into the Royal Navy? No.. he was Army, not Royal Navy.. And I do confirm that he did not enlist into the British Army, but he enlisted in the United Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 28 minutes ago, tankengine888 said: No.. he was Army, not Royal Navy.. And I do confirm that he did not enlist into the British Army, but he enlisted in the United Kingdom. Looks like this is your man...Leslie Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 3 minutes ago, ilkley remembers said: Looks like this is your man...Leslie Shaw Yes, Leslie Shaw, who landed on Gallipoli at 14 and 3 months! too many hints at once on my half. I wrote about him a year ago here for anyone who's interested. Zidane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 3 minutes ago, tankengine888 said: Yes, Leslie Shaw, who landed on Gallipoli at 14 and 3 months! too many hints at once on my half. I wrote about him a year ago here for anyone who's interested. Just goes to show that you can't keep a good man down. Interesting WiT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 Here are three for the price of one. Who is this man? and how did this lying rogue ensure that this man and this man share adjacent berths on a ship home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 3 minutes ago, ilkley remembers said: Here are three for the price of one. Who is this man? and how did this lying rogue ensure that this man and this man share adjacent berths on a ship home. Is no. 1 Horatio Bottomley? No. 3 is von Papen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 No. 2 is Naval attache Karl Boy-Ed, expelled from USA with von Papen in 1915. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 6 minutes ago, Uncle George said: Is no. 1 Horatio Bottomley? No. 3 is von Papen. Well done Uncle G No 3 is Franz von Papen future Chancellor of Germany and the man who helped put Hitler into power. The first one isn't Bottomley but he is a newspaper man 1 minute ago, Uncle George said: No. 2 is Naval attache Karl Boy-Ed, expelled from USA with von Papen in 1915. You are doing well here it is Boy-Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 (edited) No. 1 is John Revelstoke Rathom, whose story is here: https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/tag/karl-boy-ed/?utm_content=cmp-true Edited 6 April , 2023 by Uncle George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 1 minute ago, Uncle George said: No. 1 is John Revelstoke Rathom, whose story is here: Gosh! Impressivly fast Uncle G. That was certainly the name he used as a journalist , although, he is believed to have been an Australian called Soloman. Its all about manipulation of American public opinion and how British ssecurity services planted anti-German stories in a small provincial newspaper in Rhode Island. Rathom achieved much fame and was apparently the best known journalist in the US during the war. Three WiTs in 25 minutes must be a record for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 1 minute ago, ilkley remembers said: Gosh! Impressivly fast Uncle G. That was certainly the name he used as a journalist , although, he is believed to have been an Australian called Soloman. Its all about manipulation of American public opinion and how British ssecurity services planted anti-German stories in a small provincial newspaper in Rhode Island. Rathom achieved much fame and was apparently the best known journalist in the US during the war. Three WiTs in 25 minutes must be a record for you I was lucky in that I recognised von Papen, and Googling ‘ww1 von Papen’ did the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 3 minutes ago, Uncle George said: I was lucky in that I recognised von Papen, Yes von Papen was the easy one I suppose especially if you have some knowledge of inter war German history..rather suprised that he hadn't been a WiT before since he served on the Western Front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 (edited) I've searched the WIT thread and we don't seem to have done this man? He was dismounted, and killed at Gallipoli; the boy was later commissioned into a Scots regiment, but not the one he'd wanted. Edit: should've said, I'm working and it's already the evening out here, so you may be on your own re clues, etc. (should you need 'em), sorry! Edited 6 April , 2023 by Pat Atkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 14 minutes ago, Pat Atkins said: I've searched the WIT thread and we don't seem to have done this man? He was dismounted, and killed at Gallipoli; the boy was later commissioned into a Scots regiment, but not the one he'd wanted. Edit: should've said, I'm working and it's already the evening out here, so you may be on your own re clues, etc. (should you need 'em), sorry! Is that not David Niven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 So much for having to provide clues... Yes, got it in one - on the shoulders of his father (or not, I believe Niven's biological father was a Tory peer) William Niven, 1878-1915, who was killed at Gallipoli with the Berkshire Yeomanry; according to his own anecdote David Niven later applied for a commission into "anyone but the Highland Light Infantry", with predictable results. I fear you lot are too sharp for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 (edited) So, who’s this chap ? ? ? He was an inventor, amongst other things. One of two: EDIT: image from Thomas Wictor on Flickr Edited 9 April , 2023 by Uncle George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 6 April , 2023 Share Posted 6 April , 2023 Haber and Bosch? Artificial fertilizers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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