Stereoview Paul Posted 3 September Share Posted 3 September 2 hours ago, neverforget said: Thought so. It was either him or Blackader, so..... Nothing like Blackader as you can see from this picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 3 September Share Posted 3 September 4 minutes ago, Stereoview Paul said: Nothing like Blackader as you can see from this picture Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 3 September Share Posted 3 September But it could be Melchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 September Share Posted 4 September (edited) Another pair with a connection... Edited 4 September by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 4 September Share Posted 4 September Is the top one an early General Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 September Share Posted 4 September 1 minute ago, Knotty said: Is the top one an early General Gordon Yes. Charles George Gordon. His part in the connection is cryptic, but not intended to obfuscate. He will lead you directly to the first chap I'm looking for. Solving either men will automatically lead to the identification of the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September (edited) Another clue; pictorial this time. Now you have a clue for both men, who were both "firsts" by the way... Edited 5 September by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September The second photo reminds me of the young Hemingway, but he had a very characteristic hairline which doesn't show up. I'm therefore clueless, cryptic or otherwise, about this and life, the universe and everything to be honest.... Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September (edited) 24 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: The second photo reminds me of the young Hemingway, but he had a very characteristic hairline which doesn't show up. I'm therefore clueless, cryptic or otherwise, about this and life, the universe and everything to be honest.... Pete. Both high flyers Pete, and both "firsts". Edited 5 September by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September Crosswords? Equations? Waterfalls - Henry Morton Stanley and Livingstone... Stanley had an adopted son, Denzil, who served in WW1. But, Gordon? I'm just chucking pasta against the wall and hoping it sticks here. I may have to give this thread up (again) for the sake of my sanity... Nice WIT, neverforget! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September (edited) 2 hours ago, Pat Atkins said: Crosswords? Equations? Waterfalls - Henry Morton Stanley and Livingstone... Stanley had an adopted son, Denzil, who served in WW1. But, Gordon? I'm just chucking pasta against the wall and hoping it sticks here. I may have to give this thread up (again) for the sake of my sanity... Nice WIT, neverforget! Well Pat, you have the second man's name, or at least you would have in the singular, and all we need is the surname for the first one, as we already have his first three christian names. Gosh, I've made it so easy now. Edited 5 September by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September Come on peeps. You have their names and their branch of service, how much more do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September Is it Van Ryneveld and Brand, the first men to fly the length of Africa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September (edited) 17 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: Is it Van Ryneveld and Brand, the first men to fly the length of Africa? No Pete, sorry. We are talking RFC and Western Front here. Forget Africa and think of the geological phenomenon. Then you have one of their names. That combined with the previous million or so clues will give you the answer. Edited 5 September by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Bob Davies Posted 5 September Admin Share Posted 5 September Vincent Waterfall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September Just now, Bob Davies said: Vincent Waterfall? And the other chap? Name in full please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Bob Davies Posted 5 September Admin Share Posted 5 September 4 minutes ago, neverforget said: And the other chap? Name in full please. Charles George Gordon Bayly https://www.brightoncollegeremembers.com/roll-of-honour/1936 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September (edited) 31 minutes ago, Bob Davies said: Charles George Gordon Bayly https://www.brightoncollegeremembers.com/roll-of-honour/1936 And there we have it. Well done Bob. The first RFC deaths to die on the Western Front/in combat. Charles George Gordon Bayley and Vincent Waterfall. Simple eh? I think I need a lie down now. Edited 5 September by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Bob Davies Posted 5 September Admin Share Posted 5 September 1 minute ago, neverforget said: And there we have it. Well done Bob. The first RFC deaths to die on the Western Front. Charles George Gordon Bayley and Vincent Waterfall. Simple eh? I think I need a lie down now. A splendid Wit? Steve. It took me a minute or three for the penny to drop about Bayley. Cool clues! My thanks go to John AKA @Knotty, for telling us that the first chap was an early pic of Gordon of Khartuom. His uniform was telling me RE by the collar crowns but not a lot more. Equal thanks to @Pat Atkins, for all the words he typed. I had them too Pat but I never clicked with the Waterfall(s). The 'singular' gave it too me along with high flyer. I spent ages looking for RE soldiers called 'Stanley Livingstone'. Then gave up until just now. Thanks all. Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September 3 minutes ago, Bob Davies said: A splendid Wit? Steve. It took me a minute or three for the penny to drop about Bayley. Cool clues! My thanks go to John AKA @Knotty, for telling us that the first chap was an early pic of Gordon of Khartuom. His uniform was telling me RE by the collar crowns but not a lot more. Equal thanks to @Pat Atkins, for all the words he typed. I had them too Pat but I never clicked with the Waterfall(s). The 'singular' gave it too me along with high flyer. I spent ages looking for RE soldiers called 'Stanley Livingstone'. Then gave up until just now. Thanks all. Bob. Cheers Bob. Hope all concerned had a bundle of fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Bob Davies Posted 5 September Admin Share Posted 5 September Wit? This chap is similar to our last, you will know him or you won't, if you are me! Image courtesy of Word Press. https://mahbubahmedtheory.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/design-heroes-alfred-leete/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September 52 minutes ago, neverforget said: Hope all concerned had a bundle of fun 59 minutes ago, Bob Davies said: I spent ages looking for RE soldiers called ‘Stanley Livingstone'. CWGC gave me 146 Livingstones, 200 close matches what do you think Steve 🤬😂😂 Stunning WIT @neverforget and well worked out @Bob Davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September 2 minutes ago, Knotty said: CWGC gave me 146 Livingstones, 200 close matches what do you think Steve 🤬😂😂 Stunning WIT @neverforget and well worked out @Bob Davies Ever heard the expression "Can't see the wood for the trees"?😂 I have to say I was so looking forward to when the penny finally dropped. I did enjoy that one.😁 Haven't the foggiest with Bob's though as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Bob Davies Posted 5 September Admin Share Posted 5 September 4 minutes ago, neverforget said: "Can't see the wood for the trees"?😂 Gun boats on the Nile, Barings Bank, the list goes on, Lord Kitchener and goodness knows who, 'Pasha' Steve of China! Edit; Ah, a clue, 'rifles' should send you down A dark alley, into the light, not brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 5 September Share Posted 5 September 1 minute ago, Bob Davies said: Gun boats on the Nile, Barings Bank, the list goes on, Lord Kitchener and goodness knows who, 'Pasha' Steve of China! Cheers Bob, I'll do my best to get my befuddled brain to mull that over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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