cdr Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 Is this Foch's son? David correct ! like Daniel said, this is 'aspirant' Germain Foch Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigwhammer Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 Long silence, so I`ll try to help further. He went on to hold a high profile position post WW1. Held a unique status, created especially for him. He then got involved in a real struggle for survival and ended up being replaced by a true "Brain of Britain". You know, I`m really going to beat myself up now for being so lavish with my clues. I'm feeling even more obtuse than usual in the face of these clues (with the excuse that I am distracted by starting to make arrangements for moving house) - but is it Arthur Hurst, he of the shell shock treatment? Cheers Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 Long silence, so I`ll try to help further. He went on to hold a high profile position post WW1. Held a unique status, created especially for him. He then got involved in a real struggle for survival and ended up being replaced by a true "Brain of Britain". You know, I`m really going to beat myself up now for being so lavish with my clues. Is he Winston Churchill's personal physician Charles Wilson ? He wrote The Struggle for Survival and was President of the Royal College of Physicians in the 1940's. JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 My money was on Uncle George, for that reason, but I have to say well done to JP for ending the search. 1st Baron of Moran. Military Cross winner in WW1, and of course his dog was a big black one, which was to be my next giveaway clue. Pilloried for breaking patient confidentiality with his book. Replaced by Russel Brain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Wilson,_1st_Baron_Moran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 I think JP is right - Charles Wilson, Lord Moran. Jock Colville was asked by a new junior private secretary what he should do if Churchill became ill. Colville: "You telephone Lord Moran and he will send for a real doctor." EDIT - sorry NF, crossed in the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigwhammer Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 I'd be most surprised if this honourable gentleman has not been put up before, but it's always nice to welcome a guest again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 We have had him already, Colin. I believe David posted him. He is Captain Campbell. P.O.W. who promised the Kaiser he would return if allowed home to see his ailing mother. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/british-prisoner-war-freed-visit-2248453 Funnily enough, I just read his story again in Van Emden`s recent book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigwhammer Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 We have had him already, Colin. I believe David posted him. He is Captain Campbell. P.O.W. who promised the Kaiser he would return if allowed home to see his ailing mother. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/british-prisoner-war-freed-visit-2248453 Funnily enough, I just read his story again in Van Emden`s recent book. Yes, that's the fella, NF. How on earth did he persuade the authorities in Britain to let him return? I assume he travelled by some circuitous route and although I've never thought about it before, I'd have thought that ferry services etc. would have been suspended for private travel. Cheers Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 Who is this young officer ? ? ? He was involved in one of the mysteries of the war... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 Yes, that's the fella, NF. How on earth did he persuade the authorities in Britain to let him return? I assume he travelled by some circuitous route and although I've never thought about it before, I'd have thought that ferry services etc. would have been suspended for private travel. Cheers Colin Utterly preposterous story from beginning to end. I've no doubt it's true, but preposterous nevertheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigwhammer Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 Who is this young officer ? ? ? He was involved in one of the mysteries of the war... J A Martin of the Zebrina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 J A Martin of the Zebrina? No not him. "No trace ... was ever found, not even the tell-tale shimmer of escaping oil on the water." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 No not him. "No trace ... was ever found, not even the tell-tale shimmer of escaping oil on the water."Is it Lt. Gilbert Welman? Lost with H.M.S. A7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 No not him. "No trace ... was ever found, not even the tell-tale shimmer of escaping oil on the water."Is it Lt. Gilbert Welman? Lost with H.M.S. A7. No, but getting warmer: "The weather was fine, the sea smooth, and no enemy was in the vicinity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 Who is this young officer ? ? ? He was involved in one of the mysteries of the war... I am pretty sure it's not George W. Worley. Quite a puzzler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 24 February , 2015 Share Posted 24 February , 2015 Found another British sub C16 lost in a collision with one of our ships, but no trace of any crew members. Widened my search to "Allied" and came across this: https://navynews.co.uk/archive/news/item/11385 No pictures on there to check, but there seems to be some mystery surrounding it`s disappearance, and the crew are listed, so I`ll go for the man in charge. Thomas F. Besant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 February , 2015 Share Posted 24 February , 2015 Found another British sub C16 lost in a collision with one of our ships, but no trace of any crew members. Widened my search to "Allied" and came across this: https://navynews.co.uk/archive/news/item/11385 No pictures on there to check, but there seems to be some mystery surrounding it`s disappearance, and the crew are listed, so I`ll go for the man in charge. Thomas F. Besant? Yes! Well done. "The loss of AE1 with her entire complement of 3 officers and 32 sailors was the RAN’s first major tragedy and it marred an otherwise successful operation to seize the German possession in New Guinea and the South Pacific. It is not known what caused AE1 to disappear without trace and since her loss in 1914 several searches have been conducted to establish her whereabouts. Regrettably none of these have been successful." http://navy.ww1anzac.com/hmas-sub-ae1.html Covered by the Forum here: http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=138339&hl=besant&page=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 24 February , 2015 Share Posted 24 February , 2015 Could this be the start of a sub sub thread, I wonder. Well I must also disappear beneath the waves now before my last night-shift, so won`t post anyone till tomorrow, but I do have a couple lined up for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigwhammer Posted 24 February , 2015 Share Posted 24 February , 2015 Before we plunge into briney depths how about scaling some heights with this colourful character: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 February , 2015 Share Posted 24 February , 2015 Before we plunge into briney depths how about scaling some heights with this colourful character: image25.jpg Are these men of the Alpini? Is he Cesare Battisti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigwhammer Posted 24 February , 2015 Share Posted 24 February , 2015 Not Alpini, Uncle, but very close.... Cheers Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 February , 2015 Share Posted 24 February , 2015 Not Alpini, Uncle, but very close.... Cheers Colin Chasseurs Alpins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 February , 2015 Share Posted 24 February , 2015 I wonder if anyone will get this man. They always get theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigwhammer Posted 24 February , 2015 Share Posted 24 February , 2015 Sorry for the late reply, Uncle, I had to go out and only just got back. These men shot at Alpini and were shot at by Alpini - a sort of militia that came together in times of emergency and in which the men elected their own officers. They saw themselves in the proud tradition of Andreas Hofer. My man was killed in action at age 49 and became a real folk hero. Another pic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigwhammer Posted 24 February , 2015 Share Posted 24 February , 2015 I wonder if anyone will get this man. They always get theirs. Aylesworth Bowen Perry by any chance? Commissioner of the RCMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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