Phil B Posted 2 August , 2023 Share Posted 2 August , 2023 Hi Guys just thought I would add this type 45 for a Siamese numeral reference. Looks like the restamp on that 1907 was done in Thailand. Maybe someone trying to cover up a lost one . Anyway Enjoy your trip Terry . ttfn Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 3 August , 2023 Author Share Posted 3 August , 2023 Phil B, Looks to me like the symbol "th /t" followed by 5121. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil B Posted 3 August , 2023 Share Posted 3 August , 2023 These just came across my Facebook group. I’m trying to get a better photo however this is very very significant. looking forward to this discussion. cheers Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 3 August , 2023 Author Share Posted 3 August , 2023 Phil B, I see #'s 3816, 96 and 298X, of which #96 has been previously recorded. Sorry, but you'll have to enlighten me as to something "very, very significant." Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil B Posted 3 August , 2023 Share Posted 3 August , 2023 Significant in relation to the old markings are so clear and the tiger is stamped over the top of 1907 , I’ve never seen so much of the original markings before phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDodd Posted 14 August , 2023 Share Posted 14 August , 2023 I purchased this one last year at a car boot sale in Western Australia. I know one of the figures is upside down. The frog is a reproduction, but the scabbard is original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 14 August , 2023 Author Share Posted 14 August , 2023 NDodd, Welcome to the GWF in general, and to this topic in particular. No upside numerals, unfortunately as that would have been a rarity! I read it as #6014 (which slots into the Table of July 15, right next to #6013). Most of us have the replacement sheet metal scabbard, rather than the original leather model. Thanks for posting this nice-looking example, which has had all of the original British markings removed. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.ryan Posted 22 August , 2023 Share Posted 22 August , 2023 Back home again, and it looks like things have been very quiet on this post. Went to the Toowoomba, Qld. gun show last weekend and was able to meet up with Phil from this forum. We came across the expensive smiling tiger # 9459 and had a look and got a photo, but it is already listed. The asking price $600, so I expect that it will still be there next show. I did come up with one new smiling cat whilst travelling, it is now resting in my cupboard and may end up on Phil's ever growing cat breeding farm in the future. # 9559 which is a new one for the list. The bayonet weight is 494g. I did not come across any RAF marked bayonets, that post looks even more quiet. Cheers, TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil B Posted 22 August , 2023 Share Posted 22 August , 2023 As Terry said we were able to meet up in Toowoomba. The tiger we left behind was one from eBay a few months back . The catch was ceased and way out of my price range. I did however get a picture of one of my friends smiling 1907 . Currently I’m working on an update to the video I posted on YouTube last year regarding the Wild Tiger Corps type 62s . I’ll post it when I’m finished. Cheers Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 22 August , 2023 Author Share Posted 22 August , 2023 Mr TR & Phil B, Happy to see that you two fearless hunters came back from walkabout unscathed, but with a trophy each. Yes, so quiet you could hear a kitten meowing! Have added #9559 and #827 to the list. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 2 September , 2023 Share Posted 2 September , 2023 I hate the way that family and work circumstances force long absences from GWF but is is always so cheering to see the Smiling Tigers continue to advance forward! And JMB, I love that facial recognition approach!!! Of interest to me is the way that some Tigers have the maker's name scrubbed, others not so... Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil B Posted 4 September , 2023 Share Posted 4 September , 2023 Facebook find in Sweden 8594 . And I will have a couple more soon from a post I did over the weekend. I’ve also added a photo of 4 from my post from another member. Hope this gets you guys excited. I haven’t translated the 4 , thought I’d let you guys have the fun , *** ill let you know when the others come up . cheers phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.ryan Posted 4 September , 2023 Share Posted 4 September , 2023 Phil, Just when we thought that the cats had died off, you have had a good new litter. #8594 is a new one for the list. The other 4 numbers are a little unclear, he may be able to help us out with a better photo of each number, but to me they appear to be #1761, #9372, #836? and #1658. There is a #9372 already listed and I believe it is the same photo. #1761 & #1658 are new numbers for the list, and that last figure on bayonet 3 is to hard to call. We will see what JMB thinks. Cheers, TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 4 September , 2023 Author Share Posted 4 September , 2023 Phil B, Just when we thought that it was all over… Currently away from my PC, then visiting my son and his family in Virginia for a few days on the way home. Mr TR. can do the numbers, and I will update the Table sometime around later in September. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.ryan Posted 4 September , 2023 Share Posted 4 September , 2023 Phil, JMB, I have done a little detective work and we already have a photo of # 8363 on the list, I am pretty sure that it is the same as the photo of the third bayonet above with the hard to see last figure. I think a photo taken from a different angle may show that last figure more clearly. On # 1761, notice how the #1s are laying on their sides more than usual, must have been a different stamper working that day. Enjoy your time away JMB, travel safe. Cheers, TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 5 September , 2023 Author Share Posted 5 September , 2023 TR, Roger that! Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.ryan Posted 14 September , 2023 Share Posted 14 September , 2023 JMB, After a fair search I finally came up with a new number for the list I believe. A nice clear #9908. Three of the five bayonets from Phil's last litter also will be new to the list. #1658, #1761 and #8594 were all good finds, the other two were already listed. Have you heard anything else from the collector from the other forum that supposedly has 15 smiling tigers. It would be nice to see what he is holding on to. We have another gun show coming up in driving distance Sat./Sun. week, so will do the usual checks looking for anything new. Cheers, TR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.ryan Posted 24 September , 2023 Share Posted 24 September , 2023 JMB, A visit to the Maitland gun show on Saturday morning gave me the chance to come across a couple of new smiling tiger bayonet numbers. Thanks to the seller, I was able to get a photo of each for the list but because of the asking price, a cool $465 ea., I had to leave these two behind. Both had replacement grips and metal scabbards. #5603 and the other #8832 which I was surprised to see was just one number off the one I recently owned and is now in Phil Bs cat breeding collection. A good show but not many bargains or hidden gems to be found for me this time round. Cheers, TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 24 September , 2023 Author Share Posted 24 September , 2023 (edited) Mr TR, It seems to me that bayonet prices are just going into the silly region. Were that dealer’s other offerings equally over-priced? Thinking about it, perhaps his asking price was based on what he had to pay for it; with the internet, now everyone has access to production numbers and comparative values. I may have to reconsider “over-priced”! Anyway, you did at least register a couple of new numbers, so worth the trip……I’ll put the new list together at the end of the month. Regards, JMB EDIT: Does 8832 look like Wilkinson or Sanderson? Edited 24 September , 2023 by JMB1943 Add info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.ryan Posted 25 September , 2023 Share Posted 25 September , 2023 JMB I picked up #456 for Phil at the Bathurst gun show in March for $350 off the same dealer, so $350 to $465 each in 6 months is a fairly steep increase which ever way you look at it. #456 had replacement grips and screws and a newish looking black painted scabbard. Saturday's bayonets both had replacement grips and screws and one also had a newish looking black painted scabbard, so it was a price change, not a better product. Not sure of his other bayonet prices but I do know that prices are up all over, the US M7 bayonet is one that has jumped up heaps in the last couple of years, $220 about minimum here now. Prices are also on the rise for 07 scabbards, some over $100 at the shows now, but plenty of Owen gun bayonet scabbards selling a lot cheaper. Not sure of maker of #8832 but I did speak to Ian Skennerton on Saturday and it is his belief that the 10,000 contract bayonets should have nothing but the tiger head and # on one side and only X and maybe anything in close proximity to the x on the other side, everything else was scrubbed off. He believes some were re numbered since without complete rescrub. More to look into there.!!! Cheers, TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 25 September , 2023 Author Share Posted 25 September , 2023 Mr TR, I know that you are the Keeper of the Photos, so here is #4803 from a UK website. I had originally recorded this in January of this year, but still sitting there at Sterling 375. Has a nicely polished scabbard, completed by some very nice dents!!! https://www.gunstar.co.uk/All-Guns-for-sale?sstr=siamese+bayonet Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil B Posted 26 September , 2023 Share Posted 26 September , 2023 (edited) Hi guys this one just turned up on a Facebook group post. This is the second one that I’ve seen chromed . I will check it against mine and see if they could be related. cheers phil Edited 26 September , 2023 by Phil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 1 October , 2023 Author Share Posted 1 October , 2023 Phil, I read that as #7214, and have added to the register. Is that close to the serial of your chromed example? Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 1 October , 2023 Share Posted 1 October , 2023 So, the numbers of example keep climbing! This is such an illuminating thread in terms of weapon survival via the surplus market! Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 1 October , 2023 Author Share Posted 1 October , 2023 Trajan, Yes it is, and also shows the value of extra feet on the ground so to speak. Without TR and PhilB we would barely have reached 20 or so examples. Updated register added here, and we are at 264. Can The Keeper of the Photos check whether 9908 or 9903 is the real number? I am a little glassy-eyed here!! Regards, JMB 1 1013 2011 3008 4060 5021 6013 7056 8089 9047 32xx 6 1021 2078 3022 4070 5027 6014 7094 8104 9070 5x46 35 1046 2106 3070 4078 5044 6107 7128 8181 9088 608x 67 1048 2133 3090 4116 5066 6137 7143 8262 9091 808x 96 1099 2177 3155 4127 5154 6212 7187 8349 9130 x2x2 107 1115 2247 3260 4150 5168 6249 7214 8363 9185 xx1 130 1118 2278 3279 4335 5171 6279 7441 8388 9229 x070 145 1166 2280 3290 4378 5221 6285 7594 8415 9233 104x 320 1202 2339 3372 4403 5225 6339 7600 8496 9264 x33x 326 1241 2390 3395 4406 5278 6430 7611 8594 9288 x95 330 1306 2399 3400 4451 5351 6476 7626 8625 9296 71x 341 1326 2411 3449 4454 5391 6485 7745 8651 9306 16xx 392 1367 2418 3454 4496 5405 6527 7778 8712 9337 X97 404 1431 2529 3572 4537 5411 6557 7860 8714 9338 437x 427 1482 2590 3673 4570 5502 6581 7948 8726 9356 X400 456 1485 2622 3682 4629 5531 6630 7973 8732 9372 298x 505 1527 2675 3689 4632 5603 6732 7999 8737 9383 516 1584 2702 3797 4650 5960 6737 8751 9385 541 1635 2715 3810 4651 6750 8783 9412 544 1658 2784 3815 4654 6801 8793 9413 577 1757 2815 3816 4724 6819 8832 9458 590 1758 2833 3893 4770 6831 8833 9459 625 1761 2849 3958 4779 6847 9499 644 1829 2851 3992 4803 9502 649 1831 2925 4983 9559 711 1860 2936 9589 714 1889 9908 732 1926 9968 788 1980 10,000 827 836 866 941 979 997 35 29 26 24 25 18 23 17 22 29 16 = 264 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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