Bardess Posted 9 January , 2017 Share Posted 9 January , 2017 A surprising new headstone in Brighton, Vic, Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 9 January , 2017 Share Posted 9 January , 2017 He's on the CWGC database but there is no headstone record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 9 January , 2017 Author Share Posted 9 January , 2017 I should have explained that he is one of my IFCP cases and the headstone must have been erected within the last 2 weeks. It doesn't look like I thought it would though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 9 January , 2017 Share Posted 9 January , 2017 I rather like it. What's the 1092/1 number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 9 January , 2017 Author Share Posted 9 January , 2017 I really don't know. It doesn't appear in his paperwork... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted 9 January , 2017 Share Posted 9 January , 2017 Cemetery grave reference or monumental mason's reference - possibly the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 9 January , 2017 Author Share Posted 9 January , 2017 It must be the mason's reference. Here is a copy of the burial register Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scorer Posted 10 January , 2017 Share Posted 10 January , 2017 On 09/01/2017 at 07:06, Bardess said: A surprising new headstone in Brighton, Vic, Australia Is this a metal version of the new type of memorials that the CWGC are using on private graves in the UK, please? There's a couple in my local cemetery, and I think that I've seen them called "Kitchener Stones" (or something similar), but I'm not sure whether I'm right or not! I haven't seen a metal version, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 10 January , 2017 Author Share Posted 10 January , 2017 I've asked the question for you. This was how it looked for almost 100 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 10 January , 2017 Author Share Posted 10 January , 2017 I've just heard from Lois [volunteer at Brighton Cem] and she said it's bronze and is typical of new stones but, apparently, the plaque is to be replaced [she doesn't know when] as the wording is in the wrong order! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scorer Posted 10 January , 2017 Share Posted 10 January , 2017 Thank you. It does look as if it might be a variant of the type of memorial I'm talking about, as it's on a private grave. The CWGC don't have an obligation to restore private graves, but they will put a plaque such as I describe where the wording on the original headstone has become unreadable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghchurcher Posted 22 January , 2017 Share Posted 22 January , 2017 (edited) Interesting. At first I thought he must be another Iraq or Persia casualty (WIA)...but no Initially 2/Devon Regt (15582), then Somerset LI (30187) then Tank Corps (309635) BEF France 1st June 1915, awarded the 1914/15 Trio. Service Record says:- Also saw service with the Labour Corps (354466) & 364th Reserve Employment Joined the Tanks 13/03/1918 but spent his time at the depot. No casualty indication from the medal rolls or MIC - just CWGC Enlisted 9th February 1915, aged 19, occupation hairdresser from Port Talbot Discharged 23/05/19 with a disability pension, graded 70%, awarded 20/01/1920, but cannot read the reason Record says Wounded 19/07/16 In Hospital 01/05/17-10/08/17 Died at No 11 Australian General Hospital Victoria, 05/09/20 Pension Record says:- Discharged 22/04/19, disability 70% for amputated partial right thumb - so would be surprised if that is what killed him ! His medical report records possible heart condition. Interesting that he is on the CWGC roll as a casualty despite being discharged 23/05/19 or 22/04/19 (which ever is correct), presumably because he was still in the Reserve. Edited 22 January , 2017 by ghchurcher Correcting conflict in info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 23 January , 2017 Author Share Posted 23 January , 2017 His Death Certificate states Valvular disease of the Heart [VDH] and Nephritis - noted to have been aggravated by his Service on his Pension papers. Not in the Reserve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 5 May , 2017 Author Share Posted 5 May , 2017 Now amended. [Didn't expect the badge to change too...] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanks3 Posted 5 May , 2017 Share Posted 5 May , 2017 Badge is surely wrong! That was not introduced until 1923! Tanks3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 6 May , 2017 Author Share Posted 6 May , 2017 Oh dear. I've passed the information on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Wood Posted 6 May , 2017 Share Posted 6 May , 2017 On 1/10/2017 at 09:13, The Scorer said: Is this a metal version of the new type of memorials that the CWGC are using on private graves in the UK, please? There's a couple in my local cemetery, and I think that I've seen them called "Kitchener Stones" (or something similar), but I'm not sure whether I'm right or not! I haven't seen a metal version, though. There is nothing new about the style of stone now commonly used in the UK - the Gallipoli peninsula has thousands of them. For that reason I always think of them as Gallipoli plaques - but, I think, the CWGC have another term that I cannot recall. The use of bronze as in the new marker is not new either (picture from Chittagong by Jonathon Agnew and shamelessly stolen from his twitter feed): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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