Caroline1 Posted 29 November , 2017 Share Posted 29 November , 2017 Hi everybody First of all please forgive me if I am posting in the incorrect place. Can anybody help me to identify these two uniforms? I think the man in the photos is the same person, but I could be wrong. What do you think? Many thanks Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Upton Posted 29 November , 2017 Share Posted 29 November , 2017 (edited) First is pre-war dress uniform of the Norfolk Regiment. Second is also pre-war dress uniform of the Grenadier Guards. He has the short lived "Broderick" cap in his hand, so date must be within a couple of years of 1905. Edited 29 November , 2017 by Andrew Upton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline1 Posted 29 November , 2017 Author Share Posted 29 November , 2017 1 minute ago, Andrew Upton said: First is pre-war dress uniform of the Norfolk Regiment. Oh. Pre-war? That's interesting. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted 29 November , 2017 Share Posted 29 November , 2017 Hello They do look alike, brothers? Do you have any info at all on them? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline1 Posted 29 November , 2017 Author Share Posted 29 November , 2017 8 minutes ago, Dragoon said: Hello They do look alike, brothers? Do you have any info at all on them? Chris No, nothing whatsoever. There is photograph album with a number of pics in it but nearly all of them are not titled. My cousin mailed me some of them and these two bear a resemblance to some of my Willsmer antecedents who were in Essex. (Both our families lived in Essex - Birch and Prittlewell and Romford in the 18th/19th c) I thought if I could identify the uniforms it would help, but so far no gold mine. Mr Andrew Upton says .............. "The Norfolk Regiment( formerley 9th Regiment of Foot), c.1900 and Second is also pre-war dress uniform of the Grenadier Guards. He has the short lived "Broderick" cap in his hand, so date must be within a couple of years of 1905" I wonder why one of them would be in the Grenadier Guards and the in a Norfolk regiment Caroline 57 minutes ago, Andrew Upton said: First is pre-war dress uniform of the Norfolk Regiment. Second is also pre-war dress uniform of the Grenadier Guards. He has the short lived "Broderick" cap in his hand, so date must be within a couple of years of 1905. Thank you. It all just leads me down new and strange pathways. Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullerTurner Posted 1 December , 2017 Share Posted 1 December , 2017 Clearly Norfolks and even more clearly a Grenadier Guardsman! Smart turnout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 1 December , 2017 Share Posted 1 December , 2017 I'm no expert, but in the pre-War period it was common for men to join regiments which were nominally affiliated to a specific county other than their own. As an example my grandfather, a Londoner, joined the 2nd South Lancashire Regt in 1906 and there's no evidence of his ever having been outside the capital until then; in fact, many - even perhaps the majority - of his battalion were Londoners as far as I can see. The Guards regiments, unlike e.g. the Norfolks, didn't have county affiliations. Good luck with the research, Caroline. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 5 December , 2017 Share Posted 5 December , 2017 (edited) I would like to second the comments made by Pat Atkins. The Norfolk Regt soldier is wearing a full dress scarlet tunic and these were withdrawn upon the outbreak of war and never placed on general issue again. The Grenadier Guard also has a pre-War tunic, marked out by the grenade on his shoulder straps that was later replaced by a (order of the) ‘garter’ strap. Edited 5 December , 2017 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline1 Posted 6 December , 2017 Author Share Posted 6 December , 2017 20 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: I would like to second the comments made by Pat Atkins. The Norfolk Regt soldier is wearing a full dress scarlet tunic and these were withdrawn upon the outbreak of war and never placed on general issue again. The Grenadier Guard also has a pre-War tunic, marked out by the grenade on his shoulder straps that was later replaced by a (order of the) ‘garter’ strap. Thanks for this info. Regards, Caroline On 12/1/2017 at 14:07, Pat Atkins said: I'm no expert, but in the pre-War period it was common for men to join regiments which were nominally affiliated to a specific county other than their own. As an example my grandfather, a Londoner, joined the 2nd South Lancashire Regt in 1906 and there's no evidence of his ever having been outside the capital until then; in fact, many - even perhaps the majority - of his battalion were Londoners as far as I can see. The Guards regiments, unlike e.g. the Norfolks, didn't have county affiliations. Good luck with the research, Caroline. Pat Thanks so much for this info. Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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