deutscherinfanteriest Posted 3 March , 2018 Share Posted 3 March , 2018 Can you help me to identify his unit (but I know that it is difficult)? He is a saxon (also for cuffs) and the helmet. Another question, what medal he has on his breast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 3 March , 2018 Share Posted 3 March , 2018 Hi, if I am correct in interpreting the helmet he should have served with a Saxon guard unit. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 3 March , 2018 Share Posted 3 March , 2018 What a simply fantastic photograph! Lots to get into there but I will defer to my German colleagues on rank, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 3 March , 2018 Share Posted 3 March , 2018 rank? Unteroffizier. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deutscherinfanteriest Posted 3 March , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 March , 2018 I've discovered this photograph this morning and I love this picture, perhaps 1914? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deutscherinfanteriest Posted 3 March , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 March , 2018 Hey I've noted a strange thing: his belt buckle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 3 March , 2018 Share Posted 3 March , 2018 The ammo pouches would make this probably a Pionier? A Fussartillerist is out of the question because of the Pickelhaube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 3 March , 2018 Share Posted 3 March , 2018 It seems to be Saxon infantery: http://www.kaisersbunker.com/pt/pt95.htm GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loader Posted 3 March , 2018 Share Posted 3 March , 2018 Might be the Iron Cross 2/Class on one of those odd mountings. But may be SAXON medal & might even be 2 medal ribbons. Great photo in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Upton Posted 4 March , 2018 Share Posted 4 March , 2018 5 hours ago, deutscherinfanteriest said: Hey I've noted a strange thing: his belt buckle? He merely has it skewed off to the viewers left - you can even see the stitching for the buckles tongue, eg: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 4 March , 2018 Share Posted 4 March , 2018 9 hours ago, GreyC said: It seems to be Saxon infantery: http://www.kaisersbunker.com/pt/pt95.htm GreyC The ammo pouches are not infantry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 4 March , 2018 Share Posted 4 March , 2018 (edited) Hello! Because of the very dark (black?) collar and cuff-pipings and the M87/88 ammo-pouches this Unteroffizier seems to be a saxon engineer. Here is an example for saxon Pi.Btl.22 Edited 4 March , 2018 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 4 March , 2018 Share Posted 4 March , 2018 Nice shot of his Gew. 98, and its muzzle cover, and especially nice to see the NCO troddel! It looks to me to be a single medal ribbon, presumably Saxon - white/colour/white/colour/white. Also nice to see his sharpshooter award! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 4 March , 2018 Share Posted 4 March , 2018 22 hours ago, GreyC said: Hi, if I am correct in interpreting the helmet he should have served with a Saxon guard unit. GreyC The helmet plate with cross seen here is for Saxon reserve (and Landwehr) formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 4 March , 2018 Share Posted 4 March , 2018 Thank you. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 4 March , 2018 Share Posted 4 March , 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, The Prussian said: Because of the very dark (black?) collar and cuff-pipings and the M87/88 ammo-pouches this Unteroffizier seems to be a saxon engineer. I concur. The visual difference between the black piping on collar / cuffs and the red piping on tunic front / skirt bottom edge on the Feldgrau uniform can be difficult to spot, but this example from Reserve-Pionier-Kompagnie Nr.53 (53.RD / XXVII.RK) in Flanders should make it clearer what we mean: Edited 4 March , 2018 by bierast Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 4 March , 2018 Share Posted 4 March , 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, bierast said: The helmet plate with cross seen here is for Saxon reserve (and Landwehr) formations. Hello! Where do you see a cross? To me it´s a simple helmet for active units. What about the ribbon? I don´ t believe in EK II Edited 4 March , 2018 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deutscherinfanteriest Posted 4 March , 2018 Author Share Posted 4 March , 2018 Thank you all! I too think that it is a saxon medal and not an Iron Cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 4 March , 2018 Share Posted 4 March , 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Prussian said: Where do you see a cross? In between the Sachsenwappen and the star, like this (sorry for use of Fussartillerie examples for convenience): You can usually spot it in photos by looking for the flat(-tish) end of the bottom arm of the cross, and the shadow between this piece and the star (unit: Reserve-Fußartillerie-Regiment Nr. 19): Unit: Fussartillerie-Bataillon Nr.123, of which one battery was formerly 3. Batterie of Reserve-Fußartillerie-Regiment Nr. 19: Edited 4 March , 2018 by bierast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deutscherinfanteriest Posted 4 March , 2018 Author Share Posted 4 March , 2018 there isn't there but... perhaps it: Saxon Long Service Decoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 4 March , 2018 Share Posted 4 March , 2018 Oh, yes, you´re right!!!!!! Thanks a lot! I thought , the cros was smaller like in Prussia! You also might be right with the ribbon. Probably there ain´t no other one! Great job, mate!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deutscherinfanteriest Posted 4 March , 2018 Author Share Posted 4 March , 2018 this medal doesn't looks like what the soldier wears (it isn't a EK II) As you can see EK II on ribbon bar the black stands out for the eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deutscherinfanteriest Posted 4 March , 2018 Author Share Posted 4 March , 2018 I think that I've found the medal, but it is the civil merit cross of Saxony (perhaps earned before the war or military service?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 4 March , 2018 Share Posted 4 March , 2018 I haven't been able to find photos of the relevant sub-units with their helmet covers off, but would surmise based on other arms of service that helmets with the Reservekreuz were consistently issued only to the first wave of Pionier formations allowed for in the mobilisation scheme - namely the 1. and 2. Reserve-Kompagnie in each of Pionier-Bataillon Nr.12 and Pionier-Bataillon Nr.22, plus possibly the single Landwehr-Pionier-Kompagnie each formed by XII and XIX Armeekorps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deutscherinfanteriest Posted 4 March , 2018 Author Share Posted 4 March , 2018 but the coloured stripes are very separated... I think that it is more years of service in the army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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