mancpal Posted 21 April , 2018 Share Posted 21 April , 2018 Oh well ! not only the wrong regiment, the wrong war. Good job I didn’t sign up. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 21 April , 2018 Share Posted 21 April , 2018 35 minutes ago, mancpal said: Oh well ! not only the wrong regiment, the wrong war. Good job I didn’t sign up. Simon Yes it can get confusing, Simon, but over the years I’ve found that the more you frequent the forum the more you learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 21 April , 2018 Share Posted 21 April , 2018 3 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: That was a later, WW2 cap badge, after a 1922 merger, Simon, not the one that they used during WW1, although it was used as a regimental arm badge, a type of Insignia common in the cavalry. I hate to argue with an expert, but surely the Inniskllings castle was the 6th (Inniskilling) Dragoon Guards (and therefore GW), whereas the amalgamated (post-1922) regiment was the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards, with the VDG badge? (I don't think it's the Inniskilling's badge anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted 21 April , 2018 Share Posted 21 April , 2018 28 minutes ago, Steven Broomfield said: (I don't think it's the Inniskilling's badge anyway). No flag on the castle either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 21 April , 2018 Share Posted 21 April , 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steven Broomfield said: I hate to argue with an expert, but surely the Inniskllings castle was the 6th (Inniskilling) Dragoon Guards (and therefore GW), whereas the amalgamated (post-1922) regiment was the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards, with the VDG badge? (I don't think it's the Inniskilling's badge anyway). I think you are right Steven, and thus Simon was too, mea culpa. I’m an enthusiast, but not an expert and it’s good for the soul to be hoist by one’s own petard occasionally. Ergo, Simon was correct that the Inniskilling DG wore the castle in WW1, albeit we are agreed that the subject of this thread is not wearing that badge. Edited 21 April , 2018 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancpal Posted 21 April , 2018 Share Posted 21 April , 2018 Frogsmile, ”the more you consult the forum the more you learn”. Perhaps you have more available time to “consult”. I am a working single parent (recently widowed) bringing up my school age son. I’d love more time to “consult” simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 21 April , 2018 Share Posted 21 April , 2018 3 hours ago, mancpal said: Frogsmile, ”the more you consult the forum the more you learn”. Perhaps you have more available time to “consult”. I am a working single parent (recently widowed) bringing up my school age son. I’d love more time to “consult” simon It wasn’t meant to be a pointed remark Simon, my intent was merely to encourage you. I realise that everyone’s circumstances are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Brannen Posted 22 April , 2018 Share Posted 22 April , 2018 13 hours ago, Teebs said: @Keith Brannen Your adjustments make it look more like the original photo, I’ve been trying to do some more digging through the memories left by one of my great grandads daughters, I know my great grandmother was a Nellie Maslin / Maslen and it is believed the gentleman in this photo is her brother Is there any way you can get a sharper/clearer and larger scan of just the cap badge? As you can tell, we are having trouble identifying it, and any extra detail in the image would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted 22 April , 2018 Share Posted 22 April , 2018 @JOVE23 has been doing some genealogy digging for me (he's very good!) and we've basically found out a lot more information on the family, I will post his findings below in the hope to also shed some light also on the cap badge. So first things first, the maiden name of my great grandmother was Nellie Louisa Maslen, she had four brothers, William Henry Maslen, Charles Henry Maslen, Frederick George Maslen, & Percy Maslen. We found out all four of which served during World War One. First two files attached show medal orders for William Henry Maslen indicating he was in the Royal Army Service Corps, and a medical report, he contracted Malaria in Salominka in Nov 1916 and after hospital treatment in both Malta and the UK returned to Duty in France until the end of the war. Picture three shows some form of discharge record for Charles Henry Maslen. Picture four shows an article from a Southampton Newspaper, with information on Frederick George and Percy Maslen's service during the War. Finally picture five from the same newspaper article with service information on William H. Maslen. I believe that the gentleman in the photo is William Henry Maslen, but without any good photos of all of them (I only have one of Charles later on in life) it's difficult to say which one it is. However in regards to the cap badge, now knowing that William served in the R.A.S.C is it possible that his cap badge is in fact. that of the General Service Corps and the picture was taken before he was drafted to the R.A.S.C? https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/auction-catalogues/james-and-son-auctioneers/catalogue-id-srjam10062/lot-5f1d7262-eecb-4239-8d0c-a56f00d90bf0 Kind Regards Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Brannen Posted 22 April , 2018 Share Posted 22 April , 2018 1 hour ago, Teebs said: @JOVE23 has been doing some genealogy digging for me (he's very good!) and we've basically found out a lot more information on the family, I will post his findings below in the hope to also shed some light also on the cap badge. So first things first, the maiden name of my great grandmother was Nellie Louisa Maslen, she had four brothers, William Henry Maslen, Charles Henry Maslen, Frederick George Maslen, & Percy Maslen. We found out all four of which served during World War One. First two files attached show medal orders for William Henry Maslen indicating he was in the Royal Army Service Corps, and a medical report, he contracted Malaria in Salominka in Nov 1916 and after hospital treatment in both Malta and the UK returned to Duty in France until the end of the war. Picture three shows some form of discharge record for Charles Henry Maslen. Picture four shows an article from a Southampton Newspaper, with information on Frederick George and Percy Maslen's service during the War. Finally picture five from the same newspaper article with service information on William H. Maslen. I believe that the gentleman in the photo is William Henry Maslen, but without any good photos of all of them (I only have one of Charles later on in life) it's difficult to say which one it is. However in regards to the cap badge, now knowing that William served in the R.A.S.C is it possible that his cap badge is in fact. that of the General Service Corps and the picture was taken before he was drafted to the R.A.S.C? https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/auction-catalogues/james-and-son-auctioneers/catalogue-id-srjam10062/lot-5f1d7262-eecb-4239-8d0c-a56f00d90bf0 Kind Regards Tom Are you sure the name is William Henry Maslen, and not William A. Maslen? The newspaper article (image 5) is for a W.A. Maslen. Interestingly, there is both a William A. and a William H. who both served in the R.A.S.C. Your first image is the Roll listing for Charles Henry, not for a William Henry (last name first, then the given name). Anyhow, in your original photo the man has two overseas chevrons on his right sleeve. Since the Overseas Service Chevron was created in December 1917, the picture has to be after that date. Without know his exact dates abroad, but based on his getting malaria and the dates listed in medical report, it could be him, if home on leave from France. However, the cap badge is definitely not R.A.S.C., so unless he transferred to somewhere else, then it may not be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted 22 April , 2018 Share Posted 22 April , 2018 (edited) Is there a possibility it could be the General Service Corps badge still? I did not know that about the roll listing do thank you, he could have been William A Maslen, I will double check that information. It does state in the newspaper article that Percy also served in Mesopatonia and Palestine, therefore given the overseers stripes it’s going to either be William or Percy in the photo Edited 22 April , 2018 by Teebs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted 22 April , 2018 Share Posted 22 April , 2018 I'm still going with Cambridgeshire Regiment. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Brannen Posted 22 April , 2018 Share Posted 22 April , 2018 1 hour ago, Teebs said: Is there a possibility it could be the General Service Corps badge still? I did not know that about the roll listing do thank you, he could have been William A Maslen, I will double check that information. It does state in the newspaper article that Percy also served in Mesopatonia and Palestine, therefore given the overseers stripes it’s going to either be William or Percy in the photo All four brothers served overseas, so would have the chevrons. However, both Frederick George and Percy were wounded (don't know about Charles Henry), and I would expect to see a wound stripe on their left arm if it was either of them. As far as the General Service Corps badge, I would expect the badge not to look as solid as it does. Again, if you could get a re-scan of the image, it would help. 1 hour ago, Dragoon said: I'm still going with Cambridgeshire Regiment. Chris Yes, it certainly seems to be the most likely candidate to me, as well, unless we get a re-scan of the image, and more detail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony paley Posted 22 April , 2018 Share Posted 22 April , 2018 My first thought was Cambridgeshire Regt. then 6th Inniskilling Dragoons, but the individual is not dressed as either a Cavalry or Yeomanry man. Dare I say a Trooper in either would look a lot smarter. There were 'Home Service' units that wore County Regimental cap badges. Tony P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 22 April , 2018 Share Posted 22 April , 2018 (edited) I feel that Chris has been correct from the outset that the badge is the Cambridgeshire Regt. I’m rather surprised that there is still any doubt, the distinct shape seems clear and sufficiently different from the other suggestions for there to be no further doubt. Edited 23 April , 2018 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted 22 April , 2018 Share Posted 22 April , 2018 (edited) @FROGSMILE After studying the cambridgeshire badge, from what people are suggesting on this thread. I would also agree. However I believe it is the fact that the service records (posted above) I pulled up yesterday on the Maslen brothers (My great uncles) suggest that they were R.A.S.C, Royal Fusiliers and Hampshire Regiment. I haven't been able to find any information thus far that indicates one of them being transferred to the Cambridgeshire regiment. However I don't have much information on Charles Henry Maslen I will keep looking. Edited 22 April , 2018 by Teebs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted 23 April , 2018 Share Posted 23 April , 2018 These chaps are defiantly Cambs Regt, similar quality photo, badge below right looks exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted 23 April , 2018 Share Posted 23 April , 2018 Here's a good site, you can compare the badge to many of the photos, and I can 100% assure this chap is Cambridgeshire Regiment Chris http://www.cambridgeshireregiment1914-18.co.uk/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Owl Posted 23 April , 2018 Share Posted 23 April , 2018 There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that this is the badge of the Cambrigdeshire Regiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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