Robin Garrett Posted 14 September , 2020 Share Posted 14 September , 2020 12 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: I don’t doubt your assertion that the Somerset emblem is a Wyvern, but does that mean there are different representations of a Wyvern? This Wikipedia page suggests there may be - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern. The opening sentence says "wyverns often possess only two legs and no arms or front appendages". The wyvern in Chester Cathedral seems to have four legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 14 September , 2020 Share Posted 14 September , 2020 1 hour ago, Robin Garrett said: As a Somerset boy (many years ago) I can authoritatively say it's not a dragon but a wyvern. As a Welsh boy, I can authoritatively say that dragons have 4 legs and wyverns have 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 14 September , 2020 Share Posted 14 September , 2020 20 minutes ago, Robin Garrett said: The wyvern in Chester Cathedral seems to have four legs. That's because the carver didn't know any better. For example the Eagle in 'The Eagle and Child' badge of some Liverpool Regiment battalions is clearly a cormorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 14 September , 2020 Share Posted 14 September , 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Robin Garrett said: This Wikipedia page suggests there may be - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern. The opening sentence says "wyverns often possess only two legs and no arms or front appendages". The wyvern in Chester Cathedral seems to have four legs. Here are old (traditional) Somerset emblems. Very confusing! Looks like a red dragon to me. Edited 14 September , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERITAGE PLUS Posted 15 September , 2020 Share Posted 15 September , 2020 I believe that the Red Dragon of Somerset is derived from the Red Dragon Banner of King Alfred the Great. It is often erroneously called a wyvern, possibly due to the use of the Wessex Wyvern in the west country. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorporalPunishment Posted 15 September , 2020 Share Posted 15 September , 2020 Back in the 1950s Wyverns used to come out of Luton every day. Those Luton ones never had any legs at all, they had four wheels instead. They are a rare breed these days those Vauxhall Wyverns!!. I have never had the pleasure of a Luton Wyvern but I did marry a Luton Dragon and she's a bit like a Vauxhall Wyvern, temperamental, wheezy and unpredictable but at least she's not prone to leaks, not so far anyway!!. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 22 September , 2020 Share Posted 22 September , 2020 I see that you have still been seeking an ID for the badge of subject soldier and I was worried that my explanation of locally related units has somehow put your mind in doubt. You need not be, the image is good enough to make an reasoned ID and I’m quite confident that Pete’s assertion that it’s West Somerset Yeomanry is correct. There are all kinds of reasons why a man might end up with a unit not associated with his home area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Matron Posted 22 September , 2020 Author Share Posted 22 September , 2020 1 hour ago, FROGSMILE said: I see that you have still been seeking an ID for the badge of subject soldier and I was worried that my explanation of locally related units has somehow put your mind in doubt. You need not be, the image is good enough to make an reasoned ID and I’m quite confident that Pete’s assertion that it’s West Somerset Yeomanry is correct. There are all kinds of reasons why a man might end up with a unit not associated with his home area. I've got that many things on the go I'd forgotten about this Forum!! Yes I think you are right about the West Somerset Yeomanry. I had a look on the forces website and there was a Cecil Johnson in that regiment. It gives no other info apart from his service number, I would have liked to see a date of birth or next of kin just to make sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ypres1915 Posted 22 September , 2020 Share Posted 22 September , 2020 Could it be "Training Reserve"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 22 September , 2020 Share Posted 22 September , 2020 29 minutes ago, Ypres1915 said: Could it be "Training Reserve"? No, the dragon device in the centre of the badge is readily apparent. This has been a bit flogged to death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Matron Posted 22 September , 2020 Author Share Posted 22 September , 2020 1 hour ago, Ypres1915 said: Could it be "Training Reserve"? I think we’ve established that it’s the West Somerset Yeomanry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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