Deges Posted 11 July , 2021 Share Posted 11 July , 2021 I've got these German G98 ammopouches. I can't seem to read the stamp on one of them.. Does anyone have a link where there's a list of (leather) manufacturers from that era? What makes an ammo pouch more special/collectable? Condition, (rare) manufacturer, named,... Others? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 11 July , 2021 Share Posted 11 July , 2021 Certainly nice pieces of Patronentaschen, ammo pouches of WW1 is harder to find as the WW2, i assume the third have missing straps on pouches, the makers are clear to read. Second one should be looked from side as not readable fully on that picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deges Posted 11 July , 2021 Author Share Posted 11 July , 2021 Hi, thanks for your respons. Indeed the third one is missing its straps, it was in a lot with the third one.. But I can't seem to read the second one.. ..... WIN .. BERLIN maybe? 1915 It was easier if there was a list.. Already searched this forum, but maybe I didn't use the right words🙈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 11 July , 2021 Share Posted 11 July , 2021 I haven't seen such a list before. There must have been hundreds of makers, I guess. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 11 July , 2021 Share Posted 11 July , 2021 Yes the end of producer looks like ..win,about Berlin hard to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 12 July , 2021 Share Posted 12 July , 2021 It's something Erwin from Neukölln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 12 July , 2021 Share Posted 12 July , 2021 Yes ..UG Erwin, Neukoelln should be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 12 July , 2021 Share Posted 12 July , 2021 2 minutes ago, AndyBsk said: Yes ..UG Erwin, Neukoelln should be correct. BING ERWIN perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 12 July , 2021 Share Posted 12 July , 2021 (edited) I see there ..WIG probably, it could be Ludwig Erwin to sample, but i dont have list of leather producers of WW1. Neukoelln is part of Berlin town. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezirk_Neukölln Edited 12 July , 2021 by AndyBsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deges Posted 14 July , 2021 Author Share Posted 14 July , 2021 Thank you guys! I see now, you could be wright! Too bad there isn't a list anywhere, didn't geuss there would be that much.. But if you think about, it seems logical.. I will search further with this info! Again, thanks for your input👌👌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberg Posted 18 July , 2021 Share Posted 18 July , 2021 On 11/07/2021 at 20:33, AOK4 said: There must have been hundreds of makers, I guess. Very true. Countless small saddleries, shoemakers .....etc., made leather gear for the German Army. A complete list of all makers would be nearly endless. Attached photos show the "staff" of such a small saddlery from the Sieg (river) area early in the war. You can see belts, rifle slings and ammo pouches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 18 July , 2021 Share Posted 18 July , 2021 Very nice photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 18 July , 2021 Share Posted 18 July , 2021 (edited) Yes, a fine photograph! Thanks! I suspect there was a similar 'Hütte Industrie' among scissor-makers, etc., to the manufacture of 'ersatz' bayonets but have never been able to prove it.... Edited 18 July , 2021 by trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deges Posted 18 July , 2021 Author Share Posted 18 July , 2021 (edited) Wow, indeed lovely photographs. They breathe history! I love photos that just give such a lovely reflection of history. Thank you for this input. So is it good to say that just condition is more collectable, pricewise? I buy what I like, but it's always good to know what marketprices are.. I've seen pouches been sold 125+, even a mint one asking price 200+ but also for a lot less.. I paid 40 for the one on the right and the lower one. Just saying.. I know it's all relative, and I'm asking for the future that I don't want to get burned..🙈 Edited 18 July , 2021 by Deges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 18 July , 2021 Share Posted 18 July , 2021 About prices its difficult, i got M1909 from WW2 for 30€, so i assume a WW1 would be higher in good condition, but 100 over is little strange, but some people could it offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deges Posted 18 July , 2021 Author Share Posted 18 July , 2021 Yes, that's why I'm asking🙈 I don't think I would pay topdollar unless it's something I really love to have in the collection (as we all:)) but I was just curious because the differences were so big.. But thank you! I also bought from the same guy these two from ww2, with clips and inert ammo.. Fyi:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 18 July , 2021 Share Posted 18 July , 2021 Yes early pouches, inside is penciled name of the owner probably, early ammo P marked strips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deges Posted 18 July , 2021 Author Share Posted 18 July , 2021 Yes I was happy with them. Some of the clips are marked. Some arent. Do you know they where always marked during war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 18 July , 2021 Share Posted 18 July , 2021 Normally should be marked when army contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberg Posted 20 July , 2021 Share Posted 20 July , 2021 On 18/07/2021 at 18:24, Deges said: So is it good to say that just condition is more collectable, pricewise? It depends on your own preferences. I for example prefer early ammo pouches with unit stamps. Condition is secondary. On 18/07/2021 at 18:53, AndyBsk said: .... i got M1909 from WW2 ... The WWII pouches are the M1911 Pattern or "Kleine Patronentasche". In 1924 the Pattern 1911 ammo pouches were declared as standard ammo pouches for all branches of the Reichswehr. Old M1909 pouches had to be used up. The earliest (post WWI manufactured) pouch I have in my collection is dated 1926. Pre 1935 dated pouches are very tough to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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