Possible WW1 British large pack.

[Yorkshire]

Hello,

Just wondering if anyone can confirm if this is WW1 vintage. Canvas looks older than ww2 but obviously it could just be more worn down. The only marking is a broad arrow possibly over a date of 18 or 19?  Steel used instead of brass and never has brass fittings on the end of the cross strap connectors (1st picture) 

 

 

Edited 22 July , 2022 by Yorkshire

[Pete_C]

The absence of brass tips to the rear 2" tabs and the use of steel fittings indicates late WW2  utility/economy issue  - a component part of the 1937 Pattern web equipment.

Pete

 

[Yorkshire]

6 minutes ago, Pete_C said:

The absence of brass tips to the rear 2" tabs and the use of steel fittings indicates late WW2  utility/economy issue  - a component part of the 1937 Pattern web equipment.

Pete

 

Thanks Pete,

I understand on the economy measure and it being a late war thing (happened with many things) Do you have any reference to this been done late ww2 and not ww1? It does like a 18 or 19 stamp. 

 

Rich

[peregrinvs]

As mentioned, late WWII production. The broad arrow over an 18 or 19 is almost certainly an inspection stamp.

[Pete_C]

2 hours ago, Yorkshire said:

Thanks Pete,

I understand on the economy measure and it being a late war thing (happened with many things) Do you have any reference to this been done late ww2 and not ww1? It does like a 18 or 19 stamp. 

 

Rich

Yes, as mentioned, the 2 digit number and broad arrow is an inspector's stamp. Similar WW2 war time economies can be seen on these Pattern 37 haversacks.

The (large) pack still carried the Pattern 1908 designation even as a component of Pattern 1937 equipment as it was essentially the same design and dimensions. The only wartime economy measures to be found on GW era packs was the elimination in 1918 of the brass reinforcing rivets on the rear 2" web tabs.

Pete

 

[Yorkshire]

24 minutes ago, Pete_C said:

Yes, as mentioned, the 2 digit number and broad arrow is an inspector's stamp. Similar WW2 war time economies can be seen on these Pattern 37 haversacks.

The (large) pack still carried the Pattern 1908 designation even as a component of Pattern 1937 equipment as it was essentially the same design and dimensions. The only wartime economy measures to be found on GW era packs was the elimination in 1918 of the brass reinforcing rivets on the rear 2" web tabs.

Pete

 

Hi Pete

 

Thanks very much for the information. Much better to get solid evidence rather than just somebody saying so. The large pack only cost me £5 thankfully so at least I'll get my money back. I did get a 1917 dated machete and sheaf for £20 so not a bad day!