Michael Lowrey Posted 30 June Share Posted 30 June Volkhard Freiherr von Bothmer, born August 27, 1882, Crew 1900, Kapitänleutnant April 10, 1911. Is this guy: https://uboat.net/wwi/men/commanders/33.html From the end of 1917 he was in charge of the coastal stations and U-boat bases in Asia Minor. 22 Nov 1919 Out of naval service 21 Jan 1920 Korvettenkapitän (Charakter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 30 June Share Posted 30 June (edited) Dr. Maximillian Braunert, born January 2, 1880, entered service April 1, 1900, Marine-Oberassistenzarzt der Reserve April 9, 1912, Marine-Stabsarzt der Reserve September 16, 1916. Yes, repatriated from Australia. Goeben for essentially all of 1916, then at the Turkish military hospital at Harbie for the rest of the war. German decoration in early 1918 is the EK2. Date out of service not given in the Ehrenrangliste. Edited 30 June by Michael Lowrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 30 June Author Share Posted 30 June Cheers, Yes I saw that on Bothmer, but when checking against the Ehrengliste, it showed those units post 1917, you show as coastal stations and U-boat bases in Asia Minor No worries I'll leave it as is. Its like the Fliegers, Ingenieurs and others, some I found in the Ehrengliste, while others I have not, so I throw a wide net and see what comes up. Todays Buchmann Ober Feuerwerker Marine Feuerwerks (Ordnance) (Rüstungs- und Munitionsinspektion in Istanbul) Arms and Munitions Inspectorate in Istanbul (shown geschossabnahmeoffisiere (bullet inspection officers) Zeitin-Burnu 1916- (not identified)? shown US National Archives online records of the German Navy Burggraf Paul Lt deR MA Marine Pilot Matrosenartillerie Airforce I. Seeflieger-Abteilung to Seeflugstation SFS Xanthi 5-17 to Sdr-Kdo (Sonderkommando Turkei) SFS Türkei 4-18 1917-18 Kaiserliche Marine Crew 1915 awarded Ottoman Iftihar Medal in silver Capelle Eduard von Admiral Marine State secretary Naval Dept - advocated for shipbuilding contracts with the Ottoman Empire unknown (1855 at Celle died 23-1-31 or 23-2-31) Kaiserliche Marine Crew 1872 called as Alfred von Tirpitz's replacement as German navy minister in March 1916 secured contracts for twelve torpedo boats and twelve U-boats for the Ottoman Navy awarded Pour le Mérite and Knight's Cross of the Royal House Order of Hohenzollern and Ottoman War Medal Honory award by Ottoman Govt Corsalli OberIngenieur (Ing) Marine OberIngenieur Feuerwerks (Ordnance) (Rüstungs- und Munitionsinspektion in Istanbul) Arms and Munitions Inspectorate in Istanbul - Vorstand Rohmaterial (Board of Raw Materials) unterstützen W Vc and Sect VIIIc fabrikbauten ausnutzung von wasserkaften zu dissen zwecke (Factory buildings exploit water resources for these purposes) 1916- (not identified)? shown US National Archives online records of the German Navy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 30 June Share Posted 30 June Paul Burggraf, born April 8, 1884, entered service August 1915, Leutnant der Reserve der Matrosenartillerie October 29, 1918. Sonderkommando Turkei from August or September 1917 to the end of the war. Yes, a pilot. Out of service January 21, 1920. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 1 July Share Posted 1 July Oberfeuerwerker Buchmann wouldn't be in the Ehrenrangliste. (Ober)Feuerwerker is a warrant officer rank and the Ehrenrangliste is all about commissioned officers and commissioned officer candidates. that said, I don’t see a match in the 1914 Rangliste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 1 July Share Posted 1 July Eduard von Cappeli — I’m not sure what your question is about him. See, in general, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_von_Capelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 1 July Author Share Posted 1 July Mate, No worries, I was worried about what I had on him, when the Good Book had a lot more I couldn't read? Todays Elsässer Karl Kapt-Lt Marine 1st artillery officer Russian battleship Emperor Aleksandr III in German service as Linienschiff "Wolja" 10-18 to 11-18 at Sevastopol RTG 1918- (1883-1958).Kaiserliche Marine Emsmann Hugo Kon-Admiral Marine Commanded to the Imperial Admiralty Staff of the Navy 1914-18 (1857 in Stettin died 12-12-33) Kaiserliche Marine Crew 1874 Colonial Service China & Samoa from Great Radio station retired Charakterisierter Kon-Admiral 1907 Commander of the Large Radio Station Eilvese & Commanded to the Imperial Admiralty Staff of the Navy 1914-18 awarded Prussian Order of the Red Eagle 2nd Class and EK II & EK I and (pre war) Ottoman Silver Medal of Merit of the Red Crescent and War Medal Etzdorf Rüdiger von LtzS Marine joins special forces Sdr-Kdo (Sonderkommando) 7-17 to Range officer in the Euphrates river det (Tigris-Euphrates Flotila Det) shown streckenoffz (route office) Etappen dienst (Stage service) 1918 1917-18 (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine Fett possibly (Georg)? LtzS (Kapt-Lt) Marine Instructor Ottoman Battleship "Torgut Reit" (Turgut Reis) from German ships 1915-16 (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 2 July Share Posted 2 July Karl Elsässer, born May 13, 1883, Crew 1901, Kapitänleutnant November 11, 1911, was a battleship artillery officer throughout the war. He served on Nassau to February 1915, then Helgoland to August 1918, before coming to the theater as Wolja’s chief gunnery officer. Out of service November 21, 1919 with the charakter of a Korvettenkapitän. German decorations in early 1918 are the EK1 and Baden’s Order of the Zähringer Lion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 2 July Share Posted 2 July Rüdiger von Etzdorf, born September 22, 1894, entered service in August 1914 originally as a war volunteer, Leutnant zur See October 12, 1916. From July or August with the Sonderkommando’s Euphrates River Detachment as an Ettappen officer to October 1918. Out of service November 24, 1919. German decorations in early 1918 is the EK2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 2 July Share Posted 2 July (edited) Fett is a problem. Yes, there was a Georg Fett, born January 14, 1886, Crew 1904, Kapitänleutnant July 16, 1915 but he wasn’t in theater. He's a torpedo boat commander in Germany through to September 1917, when he's assigned to a staff job with the inspector of torpedo forces. There are no other officers named Fett in the Ehrenrangliste. Edited 2 July by Michael Lowrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 2 July Share Posted 2 July Hugo Emsmann, can't really add much. Born April 26, 1857, Crew 1874, Charakter as a Kontreadmiral September 7, 1907. One of those retired officer that serviced during the war without being reinstated into the active-duty officer list. Served as the head of the radio station Eilvese through out the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 2 July Author Share Posted 2 July Cheers Michael, Yes Fett was a strange one, I could not find a connection either, I checked other known men who served on the Battleship "Torgut Reit" (Turgut Reis) but of the 14 German officers I have from LtzS to Kor-Kapt, none are close to that spelling. Only two are shown as instructors, but others may of had to do that job, as it was common on Ottoman ships for all German ranks to also teach their Turkish ship mates Rosentreter Fedor Kapt-Lt (Maj) Marine Torpedo officer SMS Goeben (Yavuz) 1914 - Instructor/CoCommander Ottoman Battleship "Torgut Reit" (Turgut Reis) supported defence of Dardanelles 4-15 to CoCommander "Barbaros Hayrettin" (Barbaros Hayreddin) Kubeile (Kubrille) Paul Feuerwerks-Maat deR Marine SMS Breslau (Midilli) - PO Instructor Ottoman Battleship "Torgut Reit" (Turgut Reis) from German ships Corravado to SMS Goeben (Yavuz) - Sdr-Kdo (Sonderkommando) Naval MG Sects Marine-Landungsabteilung (Naval Shore Det) at Gallipoli Todays Fiedler G.F Kapt Marine Commander German depot Ship "General" RTG 1914 1914- (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine Fikentscher Erich LtzS Marine SMS Emden Station N to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 1914-15 (born Nürnberg ) Kaiserliche Marine PoW captured by HMAS Sydney 9-11-14 Kriegsgefangen in Gefangenschaft (PoW in prison) Fischer Hilfsakaptlt Marine Hilfsakaptlt (assistant captain) Quartermaster General QMG verfügung gestellt (made available) 1917-18 (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown US National Archives online records of the German Navy Item 808 Franz Carl Kon-Admiral Marine pre war check me ****** (born 1855 died 1919) Kaiserliche Marine awarded Pre war Ottoman Order Of Talent and Osmaniye Order 2nd Class and Medjidie Order 2nd Class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 3 July Share Posted 3 July 2 hours ago, stevenbecker said: Fiedler G.F Kapt Marine Commander German depot Ship "General" RTG 1914 1914- (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine No, not German navy but rather German merchant marine so a civilian. General was a big merchant steamer that made for Turkey when the war began and became a German naval depot ship. The 1914/195 edition of Lloyd's Register of Shipping lists a “F. Fiedler” as General’s captain. As he’s not a reserve officer and the navy in any case doesn’t have a need for him in theater, he goes back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July On 02/07/2024 at 18:27, stevenbecker said: Fischer Hilfsakaptlt Marine Hilfsakaptlt (assistant captain) Quartermaster General QMG verfügung gestellt (made available) 1917-18 (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown US National Archives online records of the German Navy Item 808 Not listed in the Ehrenrangliste, but I don’t have have high confidence that the list of Hilfsoffiziere in the Ehrenrangliste is 100% complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July On 02/07/2024 at 23:27, stevenbecker said: Franz Carl Kon-Admiral Marine Steve, nothing to suggest that Admiral Franz was recalled for service in any capacity in WW1. He retired on 15 September 1908. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July 1 hour ago, Michael Lowrey said: Not listed in the Ehrenrangliste, but I don’t have have high confidence that the list of Hilfsoffiziere in the Ehrenrangliste is 100% complete. I agree. And for what it is worth, I have only encountered two appointments of Hilfsoffiziere listed in the Marine-Verordnungsblatt. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 4 July Author Share Posted 4 July (edited) Cheers Mates, Yes I had the same problem confirming who Fikentscher Erich is and the story of SS Buresk " a prize she was retained and used as a prison ship and collier. Under command of Lt-Cdr R. Klöpper, she coaled Emden near the Nicobar Islands on 26 October. While approaching the Cocos (Keeling) Islands to coal Emden again, she was chased by HMAS Sydney after Emden was sunk. She was in the process of being scuttled by her crew when boarded by a Sydney boarding party, finding that the inlet valves had been opened and irreparably damaged. She was later sunk by gunfire from Sydney" List of the known Prize crew Ellermann Heinrich ObMasch Maat Marine SMS Emden II Werft 1 Abt to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Fikentscher Erich LtzS Marine SMS Emden Station N to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Giersch Richard ObHeizer deR Marine SMS Emden II Werft to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Goltz Hermann Boots-Maat deR Marine SMS Emden II Matr Kapt to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Granzow Julius ObMatrose Marine SMS Emden II Matr Kapt to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Gronau Wilhelm ObMatrose Marine SMS Emden II Matr 1 Abt to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Kelle Fritz ObSignal Gast Marine SMS Emden II Matr 3 Abt 8 Komp to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Klöpper Oskar Kapt-Lt aD Marine außer Dienst SMS Emden Station N to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Lakay Wilhelm Heizer Marine Kreigfreiwilliger SMS Emden to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Lapp Heinrich ObMasch Maat Marine SMS Emden II Werft 1 Abt to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Leucht Martin ObMasch Maat deR Marine SMS Emden II Werft 1 Abt to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Mayer (Meyer) Karl Matrose deR Marine Kriegsfreiwilliger SMS Emden II Matr 1 Abt to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Rölle Fritz FT Gast Marine Funken-Telegraphen SMS Emden II Werft 1 Abt to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Schall Robin Vidal LtzS Marine SMS Emden Station N to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Warnecke Henry ObHeizer deR Marine SMS Emden to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 Wittkopf Freidrich Torpedo Maat Marine SMS Emden I Torp Div 4 Komp to prize ship SS Buresk a Collier 27-9-14 I did find Fikentscher in the Ehrenrangliste, but I am unsure of the Old German writting if correct spelling I have, see page 354 under ObLtzS (if I have the right man that is?) Which does list LtzS Schall but not Kapt-Lt Klopper (at lest under that spelling?) I found him, and them, when trying to track down those German crewmen who escaped the lost of the Emden and arrived in Turkey Edited 4 July by stevenbecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 4 July Author Share Posted 4 July (edited) Todays *Frige ObLtzS Marine MMD (Military Mediterranean Division - Ottoman Torpedo Boat "Akhisar" 9-14 1914- (not identified) Gäriner Assistenzarzt Dr Marine Assistenzarzt Depot ship "General" 1918 1917-18 (not identified)? shown US National Archives online records of the German Navy Item 808 Gehricke Ingenieur (Ing) Marine Ingenieur Feuerwerks (Ordnance) (Rüstungs- und Munitionsinspektion in Istanbul) Arms and Munitions Inspectorate in Istanbul - Vorstand Rohmaterial (Board of Raw Materials) - Sect VIIIa Rohstoffversorgung Kohle und Koks (raw material supply coal and coke) 1916- (not identified)? shown US National Archives online records of the German Navy Glanhn LtzS deR Marine Quartermaster General QMG verfügung gestellt (made available) s.auch flottille (see also Flottilla) 1917-18 (not identified)? shown US National Archives online records of the German Navy Item 808 * only officer I show on this ship during the war and I can't confirm his name? "At the outbreak of World War I, she was already obsolete and of low combat value.[5] On August 29, 1914, the ship with a German officer, Oberleutnant zur See Frige on board left the Dardanelles and went under Imbros on a reconnaissance mission" Edited 4 July by stevenbecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July Walter Glahn, born January 21, 1893, entered service December 5, 1914, Leutnant zur See der Reserve February 20, 1917. Civilian service with the Dardanelles Command December 1914, then Bosporus minesweeping division to March 1915, then Turkish torpedo boats to May 1918, and finally with the torpedo boat flotilla in Sevastopol to the end of the war. Out of service January 21, 1920. German decoration in early 1918 is the EK2. If I'd have to guess, maybe a junior merchant marine officer on one of the German merchant ships that sought safety in Turkey when the war began that made himself useful locally, and eventually became a reserve officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 5 July Share Posted 5 July There’s no obvious match in the Ehrenrangliste for Frige, Gäriner, or Gehricke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 5 July Share Posted 5 July 21 hours ago, stevenbecker said: Gäriner Assistenzarzt Dr Marine Marine-Oberassistenzarzt Dr. Wolfgang Gärtner, born 26 June 1890 in Jena. Active naval medical officer who qualified in medicine in 1914. Marine-Assistenzarzt on 31.8.14 and Marine-Oberassistenzarzt on 17.12.16. In theatre and assigned to the "General" as an assistant surgeon from July 1917. Left service on 14 July 1919 with the Charakter of a Marine-Stabsarzt. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 5 July Share Posted 5 July 22 hours ago, stevenbecker said: *Frige ObLtzS Marine I would assume that should be Leutnant zur See Ernst Krieger, born 6 July 1893. Initially serving on the Breslau as a Fähnrich and commissioned on 3 August 1914. Serving on the Ottoman torpedo boat Dradsch in April 1915 and then adjutant to the commander of the straits command. July 1916 to U boat school and further U boat service. Promoted to Oberleutnant on 26 April 1916 and retired on 22 November 1919. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 5 July Author Share Posted 5 July Mates, Yes Frige could be Krieger, I am inclined to look at Others, all of whom we have discussed with Wolf, other then Schrader Otto von But we run into the problem of his ship Ottoman Torpedo Boat "Akhisar", I have no others recorded in that ship, when accounts state that at lest 4 Germans were on her, so they maybe service men not officers. Common on most boats were German attach to Engineering, Gunnery, and top deck crew, either FT or others, who help train the Ottoman crews Today *Gramberg Hinrich Lt (Ing) Marine Erster Ingenieur (Sea) Mining Ingenieur (Engineer officer) to block the Tigris Stab Iraq Command att Suleiman Askari Bey Ottoman forces at Basra 1915 and served in Expedition Klein in Persia Mesopotamia 1914-15 to Offiziers-Stellvertreter / Osmanischer Leutnant 1-3-15 Minen-Offizier unter Leutnant Müller an der Kurna-Front 1914-15 (not identified)? Ex Maschinisten-Maat 1. Kompanie II. Werft-Division Wilhelmshafen V, Steuermann der Reserve (Ship's officer of Hapag-Lloyd steamer “Ekbatana“ Confiscated by the Turks at the beginning of the war and was sunk at the mouth of the Shatt al-Arab at Basra together with two other ships to block the river mouth) Gefangenschaft seit Mai 1915 (PoW 31-5-15 at Ruta near Qurna * possibly another civilian ranked naval officer Hagen Franz ObLtzS Marine U Boat School Crew 4/10 to Commander UC 73 Pola/Mittelmeer I Flotilla 7-18 to 12-18 (repalced Gerke) U Boat 1918- (born 1891 died ?) Kaiserliche Marine Crew 1910 with No ships sunk awarded EK II & EK I (not identified)? *Hentz Int Sekr Marine Int Sekretär to depot Ship "General" 1918 1917-18 (not identified)? shown US National Archives online records of the German Navy Item 808 unknown if he could be recorded? No mentioned in the Ehrenrangliste Goltz Konrad Kapt-Lt zD (Maj) Marine Pilot Airforce German Naval Seaplane Group (GNSG) (Wasserfliegerabteilung) to OC Sdr-Kdo (Sonderkommando) SFS St Stefano (from Leibmann) 1-17 (or 7-17) to Acting Kon-Kapt Inspector Ottoman Marineluftfahresens) Naval Avation 6-18 - Deniz kuvvetleri uçak filolari komutani Basmüfettisi (Navy aircraft fleet commander Chief Inspector) to 10-18 RTG 1917-18 (born 1881 in San Remo/Italien died 10-1-57 or 10-1-47) Kaiserliche Marine retired Charakter Kon-Kapt 1911 trained as pilot from Seefliegertruppe 1914 to Commander Freiwilligen MarineFliegerkorps 11-15 to Sonderkommando (SoKo) Edler 1.Torpedo Staffel at Flenburg 1-9-16 to Commander der Seeflieger in Turkey 7-17 reported killed in flying accident not confirmed awarded Pre war Order of the Crown and Oldenburg’s House and Merit Order of Peter Frederick Louis and Saxony’s Albert Order & EK II shown Gruppenleiter and Abt.Chef bei der Inspektion der Marineflieger beim Luftkreis-Kdo 1920-35 to LtCol supply officer based at the port of Kiel Luftwaffe founder of the Seenotdienst (Air sea rescue) 1935 retired 1937 recalled Col Gruppe Seenotdienst 1938 later WWII Gen-Maj Inspekteur des Seenotdienstes im RLM/L to Gen-Lt retired 1943 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 6 July Share Posted 6 July 22 hours ago, stevenbecker said: No mentioned in the Ehrenrangliste Goltz Konrad Kapt-Lt zD (Maj) Marine Pilot Airforce German Naval Seaplane Group (GNSG) (Wasserfliegerabteilung) to OC Sdr-Kdo (Sonderkommando) SFS St Stefano (from Leibmann) 1-17 (or 7-17) to Acting Kon-Kapt Inspector Ottoman Marineluftfahresens) Naval Avation 6-18 - Deniz kuvvetleri uçak filolari komutani Basmüfettisi (Navy aircraft fleet commander Chief Inspector) to 10-18 RTG 1917-18 (born 1881 in San Remo/Italien died 10-1-57 or 10-1-47) Kaiserliche Marine retired Charakter Kon-Kapt 1911 trained as pilot from Seefliegertruppe 1914 to Commander Freiwilligen MarineFliegerkorps 11-15 to Sonderkommando (SoKo) Edler 1.Torpedo Staffel at Flenburg 1-9-16 to Commander der Seeflieger in Turkey 7-17 reported killed in flying accident not confirmed awarded Pre war Order of the Crown and Oldenburg’s House and Merit Order of Peter Frederick Louis and Saxony’s Albert Order & EK II shown Gruppenleiter and Abt.Chef bei der Inspektion der Marineflieger beim Luftkreis-Kdo 1920-35 to LtCol supply officer based at the port of Kiel Luftwaffe founder of the Seenotdienst (Air sea rescue) 1935 retired 1937 recalled Col Gruppe Seenotdienst 1938 later WWII Gen-Maj Inspekteur des Seenotdienstes im RLM/L to Gen-Lt retired 1943 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen) Goltz is on page 593 of the Ehrenrangliste. Born October 8, 1881. Crew 1899. Reaches the rank of Kapitänleutnant but leaves service. He is on those officers that sees service again during the war without being reinstated to the active-duty officer list. Charakter as Korvettenkapitän February 15, 1918. Commander of the Freiwilligen Marine Flieger Korps (becomes the Marine Landflieger Abteilung) August 1914 to July 1916, then head of the Seeflieger Sonderkommando in Flensburg (torpedo aircraft) to July 1917. when be becomes the commander der Seeflieger in Turkey and inspector of the Turkish naval aviation and detachment head in teh Turkish Navy Ministry to the end of the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 6 July Share Posted 6 July Friedrich Hentz is shown in the Beamte section of Ehrenrangliste, which provides limited details of these officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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