help with Location of the 18th welsh Battalion on the 9th April 1918

[weshallremember]

hello

need help for the location of the 18th welsh battalion 119th brigade 40th division near  Fleurbaix 9th April 1918

and the location of

winter's post and Essex avenue ( as stated in the war diary)

many thanks

trevor

Edited 6 July by weshallremember

[Howard]

6 minutes ago, weshallremember said:

hello

need help for the location of the 18th welsh battalion 119th brigade 49th division near  Fleurbaix 9th April 1918

and the location of

winter's post and Essex avenue ( as stated in the war diary)

many thanks

trevor

An Essex Avenue can be found in TrenchMapper, although you will have to scroll through the map list in the left panel to find one with the name marked. It is a long way from Fleurbaix.

There are three places on sheet 36 (for Fleurbaix), Essex, Essex Central Farm and Essex House. Just search for Essex alone in the box.

Howard

[weshallremember]

thanks for your reply Howard

i think now they were a bit further south or south east of Flerbaix itself

do you know what map grid reference is above 36 SW   N9 C

thanks

trevor

 

 

Edited 5 July by weshallremember

[Howard]

You can use TrenchMapper for that. Enter your reference formatted as per the original manner with dots, i.e. 36.N.9.C   (The SW is not used in references, it is part of a sheet name )

TM will jump to that place. Now you can move the mouse over the map and the map reference will update continuously in the lower left of the screen.

You may find it easier to change the map filter to 1:40,000 to range over a larger area.

Help on map references in Help->Knowledge Centre-How to read a trench map.

Howard

[brianmorris547]

Trevor

Its 40 Div so I think you had a typo with 49 Div

I have cropped this map from the April 1918 WD of 40 Div HQ GS and it shows the locations mentioned in the narrative of 18 Welsh Regt:

Necklace Trench and Nephew Trench (in the German Lines) in N 9 c and N 9 d 

Winters Night Post in H 31 d and Exeter Ave in N 8 a

Brian

TNA/Ancestry WO 95/2593

[weshallremember]

thanks Howard 

[weshallremember]

thanks Brian

yes typo on the division  ( edited)

trying to do stuff too quick

bit like looking at war diaries i had missed the information about nephew and necklace trenches so many times !!!!!!

i was trying to find out where this soldier of C coy was because of the note his wife had sent to the red cross

listing him as missing/wounded on the 10th of April 1918

and i was wondering when the battalion would have known he was missing because of the full scale attack from the 9th ??????????? 

and how they new he was wounded???

was the date the 10th when they found out he was missing from the battle on the 9th 

 could it be possible he was killed on the 9th???????

 

thanks

trevor

Edited 6 July by weshallremember
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[Howard]

Now you have some names, you can get there very quickly in TrenchMapper, just put Nephew or Necklace into Search. Nephew pops up at about 36.N.9.d.7.2

Then you can select from more than 100 maps in the left panel. You can use Street View to look around the local roads or change the opacity to see the modern aerial view.

Howard

[weshallremember]

thanks Howard

got all the maps i needed now to piece the jigsaw together

regards

Trevor

[Chris_Baker]

For info, this is covered in detail in my book "The Battle of the Lys - South - Objective Ypres". It is also explained in a talk on the subject which you will find on Youtube, called "Six miles from victory".

Edited 8 July by Chris_Baker

[weshallremember]

hello Chris

thanks very interesting and informative video

especially about the Portuguese units 

i am now even more convinced my man was killed on the 9th

here is a interesting note from the war diary

with thanks to the national archives

regards

Trevor