war office weekly casualty lists issue date and p o w question

[charlie962]

1 hour ago, weshallremember said:

27507    Burgham William 

Three card

[charlie962]

1 hour ago, weshallremember said:

25494    Burrows David c

 

This is probably him also

[charlie962]

ICRC is difficult to negotiate. Findmypast indexing helps hugely but there are transcription error by ICRC and by Findmypast so you have to try lots of wildcards. The last three exemples are typical.

[charlie962]

1 hour ago, weshallremember said:

55968   Hearty Alfred a

Not found

Findmypast have this:

Alf Alex Hearty

Soldier number 55968

Platoon/section VI

Company B

Battalion 18

Regiment Welsh Regiment

Year 1918

Date reported missing or wounded 09/04/1918

Missing or wounded details W. and M. April 9/18.

Enquiry date 02/08/1918

Theatre of war B.E.F.

War First World War, 1914-1918

Country Great Britain

Record set British Red Cross & Order Of St John Enquiry List, Wounded & Missing, 1914-1919

 

 

 

 

 

 

[charlie962]

6 hours ago, weshallremember said:

51837   Mckay  Albert

Again not found but there is a StJohns enquiry and like the previous man (Hearty) sdgw shows kia 9/4/18

6 hours ago, weshallremember said:

on P A FORMS

Can you give me the PA form number on which you found these last two please?

Edited 14 July by charlie962

[weshallremember]

wow Charlie 

you are good at this

yes it's very difficult with the indexing and name errors

2 more 

27515  blinkho  ralph

266481  bartlett   s

both on p o w sheets returning to england

and a strange one

61215  Haworth  Harry c coy

 enquiry sent to IRCC NEGATIVE ENVOYEE 21ST JUNE 1918 

AND THEN

HE TURNS UP

at dover as a returning p o w Shrewsbury record office

 TREVOR

[weshallremember]

i will try and find the P A FORMS

 

[weshallremember]

Charlie

can not find the p a forms yet

i think my eyes need a rest

i will look again tomorrow

i have about 127 p o w soldiers now

lots of paperwork i need to sort in some sort of order so it will be easier to find 

AND I DONT END UP LOOKING FOR THE SAME PERSON AGAIN 

thanks for your help

greatly appreciated 

Trevor

[charlie962]

4 hours ago, weshallremember said:

266481  bartlett   s

His correct number is 266461 under which you will find MIC and StJohns enquiry .

He had full name Henry Charles Stanley Bartlett

 

Edited 14 July by charlie962

[charlie962]

 

6 hours ago, weshallremember said:

54269    Phillips  W

3 cards (note taken 25/3/18)

Edited 14 July by charlie962

[charlie962]

6 hours ago, weshallremember said:

60854    Digance  Arthur G

[weshallremember]

seem to have trouble finding

202655 or 202656  ALFRED W HARRIS

 

 

Trevor

[weshallremember]

HI Charlie

my mistake on Hearty and McKay they were on the WEEKLY WAR LIST AS CASUALTIES 

should have crossed then off my list

i don't want to keep bothering you

so how do i find surnames Evans and Harris on the IRCC

it's weird there are 42 listed just as Harris but none listed as Welsh Regiment on the side index

same with Evans 36 listed just as Evans but none as Welsh regiment on the side index

regards

trevor

Edited 15 July by weshallremember

[charlie962]

5 hours ago, weshallremember said:

seem to have trouble finding

202655 or 202656  ALFRED W HARRIS

 

 

Trevor

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/fr/File/Search/#/3/2/224/0/Anglais et Commonwealth/Militaire/Harris

[charlie962]

Sorry, direct link hasn't worked. But names like Harris and Evans are do common that the straddle more than one block in ICRC. You need to look in the second block

Harris again

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/fr/File/Details/2002743/3/2/

[weshallremember]

it's weird the IRCC 

when i look for Harris on the side index IT SAYS 42  

 after where it says HARRIS 

  on the side index in then lists the regiments

but it only goes down as far as the Middlesex regiment????

ALTHOUGH THERE IS A WHITE ARROW AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE

WHEN I PUT THE CURSER ON IT ITHE ARROW CHANGES TO RED 

although other names have been ok

and EVANS

THERE IS NO LIST ON THE LEFT INDEX FOR WELSH REGIMENT??????

STRANGE

trevor

 

 

[charlie962]

If you search for Harris you get this:

Go to the white bar in the left hand Black index and click on the arrow (see below circled in red)

You will get the rest of the Harris Régiments as an option. Click on the circle as I've done in blue

 

 

Hope you can follow me

 

[charlie962]

Evans, welsh regiment was identified as a problem a long while back. Don't know if ever resolved by ICRC. I suspect not.

See this thread

https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/221058-welsh-regiment-captured-and-missing-1914-18/#comment-2188389

Edited 15 July by charlie962

[weshallremember]

oh my god

thanks Charlie

i have been searching this site and never knew you had to do that

HOW STUPID 

 

[weshallremember]

hi Charlie

JUAY AN UPDATE

thanks for that last one

i was getting a bit confused in my old age

looking at the screen too long

anyway i'm starting to type my list up tomorrow    

SO FAR I HAVE  GOT    128  SOLDIERS INFO  INCLUDING SEVICE NUMBERS AND WHICH COMPANY THEN WERE IN

I THNK ABOUT 40 STILL TO GO AT THE MOMENT UNLESS I FIND MORE !!!!!!

Trevor 

[weshallremember]

hi Charlie

yes that is him 

interesting about the M M 

 got  a bit confusing  because i had TWO JACKSON  cards on the IRRC

CLIIFFORD JACKSON AND JACKSON  E  C  

because there are quite a few men who have the same surnames but slightly different forename letters   

Trevor

[weshallremember]

hi Charlie

getting somewhere now

two name error ones

p o w index card for Chard Robert  James  born in Newport m 1896 

no service number no medal index card for that name

but there is a Chard Charles R   born in Newport m  1896

with a medal index card 28597

also

p o w P A SHEET 35704   Richard Rimell    

on missing list under SURNAME R  miss typed as R  Kimell  service number 27714

which is on the medal index card as Percy Rimell

NOT EASY 

Trevor

 

 

 

 

[weshallremember]

OK LAST POST ON THIS SUBJECT

ANY HELP PLEASE

TO FIND THE  LAST ONE'S TO FIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P O W S   18TH WELSH BATTALION 9TH TO 13TH APRIL 1918

P A SHEET  35706   WILLIAMS JOHN HUGH   BORN 15TH FEB 1899  CANT MAKE OUT ADDRESS  NO MISSING LIST I COULD SEE SO NO SERVICE NUMBER

P A SHEET   35707   SMITH WILLIAM   BORN WILLISTON 7TH OCT 1878   NO MISSING LIST I COULD SEE NO SERVICE NUMBER

P A SHEET  35708   HOWELLS DAVID J  BORN WALES 23RD SEPT 1896  NO MISSING LIST I COUD SEE NO SERVICE NUMBER

P A  SHEET  35709   JOHNSTONE  ALEXANDER  BORN GALASHIELDS 10TH MAY 1894  NO MISSING LIST I COULD SEE NO SERVICE NUMBER

P A  SHEET  24484   REES  GOSICH   BORN YNISHER WALES  12TH APRIL 1896  NO MISSING LIST I COULD SEE BUT FOUND A REES ISAAC  BORN 1896 YNISHER 

ON  A MISSING LIST WITH SERVICE NUMBER 16236 ???????

P A  SHEET  35691  BROWN WILLIAM BORN LIVERPOOL 10TH NOV 1898  NO MISSING LIST I COULS SEE NO SERVICE NUMBER

  I HAVE FOUND  139 SOLDIERS WITH CORRECT DETAILS  ************ 

WITH THE GREAT HELP FROM CHARLIE^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

MANY THANKS

TREVOR

Edited 19 July by weshallremember

[charlie962]

45 minutes ago, weshallremember said:

P A  SHEET  24484   REES  GOSICH   BORN YNISHER WALES  12TH APRIL 1896  NO MISSING LIST I COULD SEE BUT FOUND A REES ISAAC  BORN 1896 YNISHER

See PA 26405 which confirms 16236 Isaac Rees

[weshallremember]

oh my god CHARLIE

BRILLIANT

and i thought i was nearly finished

but a quick look at P A 26405  their are more names 

i never found this sheet through any of the the index cards 

and on the sheet above it more 

so more looking at sheets 

THIS COULD TAKE A WHILE !!!!!!!!!!

SO DISREGARD MY PROMISE OF NO MORE POSTS   

thanks again Charlie

you are a star

Trevor