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14 hours ago, weshallremember said:

P A  SHEET  35691  BROWN WILLIAM BORN LIVERPOOL 10TH NOV 1898  NO MISSING LIST I COULS SEE NO SERVICE NUMBER

Could be this man both records show C Company but I've no origin for him for age or place. Note date reported Missing is 13/4 which doesn't match your PA35691 although this could be delayed report.

 

W Brown   61142

Company C

Battalion 18

Regiment Welsh Regiment

Year 1918

Date reported missing or wounded 13/04/1918

Missing or wounded details M. April 13/18.

Enquiry date 20/11/1918

Theatre of war B.E.F.War First World War, 1914-1918

Country Great Britain

Record set British Red Cross & Order Of St John Enquiry List, Wounded & Missing, 1914-1919

 

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hi Charlie

YES I THINK IT MGHT BE

I FOUND MORE P A SHEETS FROM THE NUMBER YOU GAVE ME FOR ISSAC REES P A 26399  TO  26410

AND FOUND 14 MORE SOLDIERS AND GOT THEIR DETAILS OK

BUT AS ALWAYS 2 I CANT FIND

28834    WILLIAM HARDINS   D COY  NO MUMBER OR NAME MATCH ON MEDAL INDEX CARDS P A 26402

54383   WALTERS WILLIAM  C COY      SAME AS  ABOVE    P A 26407

 

NOW I KNOW THE PROBLEMS SEARCHING FOR P O W S

1.   IF YOU CANT FIND A WHITE INDEX CARD  YOU DONT KNOW WHAT P A NUMBER TO LOOK FOR 

2.   WHITE INDEX CARDS AND P A LISTS WITH WRONG NUMBERS OR NAMES OR MIS-SPELLING  OF NAMES 

3. P A SHEETS WITH HAED TO READ ADRESSES  

4.  NEWS PAPER CASUALTY LIST PAGES WHERE YOU CANT READ TE BIT HIDDEN BY THE BINDER OF THE BOOK

APART FROM  THAT IS OK JUST TAKES A LOT OF TIME  

SO NOW GOT 142 SORTED OK

REGARDS

Trevor

 

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5 minutes ago, weshallremember said:

28834    WILLIAM HARDINS

William Harding 28834 exists

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54383   WALTERS WILLIAM  C COY      SAME AS  ABOVE

Could possibly be

William Walters 54302

In fact card is hard to read but should say 54302

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Second card

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thanks again Charlie

just found William Harding

the national archives  has him listed as 25534  but when look at the preview of the card it says 28834

and yes another number error for Walters

 BRILLIANT

REGARDS

Trevor

 

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4 minutes ago, weshallremember said:

national archives  has him listed as 25534  but when look at the preview of the card it says 28834

NA index is wrong. Medal roll and index card say 28834. There is also à pension claim under this number

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YES I HAVE CONTACTED THE N/A TO LET THEM KNOW  

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hi Charlie

was there a white index card for Hardins or Harding ?????

IM NOW GOING TO LOOK AT THE MISSING LISTS AGAIN

 AND I HAVE SOME REPAT LISTS TO LOOK AT ALSO

THEN SEE IF ANY MORE WON THE MILITARY MEDAL

THERE ARE 4 AT THE MOMENT ALTHOUGH 2 WERE  FOR THERE PREVIOUS REGIMENT THE 17TH WELSH 

THEN LOOK INTO THE ONES I WE CANT FIND ONE LAST TIME

REGARDS

Trevor

 

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4 hours ago, weshallremember said:

was there a white index card for Hardins or Harding ???

Both

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P A SHEET  35708   HOWELLS DAVID J  BORN WALES 23RD SEPT 1896  NO MISSING LIST I COUD SEE NO SERVICE NUMBER

PA35708

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David John Howells

Birth year 1886

Age 32

Death year 1918

Death date 31 Dec 1918

Number 202759

Rank Private

Unit 18th Bn.

Regiment Welsh Regiment

Grave reference XII. E. 21.

Cemetery or memorial Terlincthun British Cemetery, Wimille

Burial country France

Additional information Son of Philip and the late Eleanor Howells, of Maesgwenllian, Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire.

       ................

Daily Casualty List 23/1/19

 

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       .......

Lives of the First World War has this extra detail tying up address:

Mother : Eleanor

Addresses : Danyallt, Mynydd Y Garreg, Kidwelly United Kingdom Parents

Addresses : Maesgwenllian Or Danyrallt, Kidwelly United Kingdom Parents

Place of Death : France

Addresses : Danyallt, Mynydd Y Garreg, Kidwelly United Kingdom Parents

Father : Philip Howells

 

 

 

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HI CHARLIE

THANKS AGAIN 

IM SORRY BUT I HOPE YOU DONT MIND THERE IS GOING TO BE MORE LATER

I HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE NEWSPAPER REPATS LISTS

AND WHERE I SEE LISTS WITH SOLDIERS I ALREADY HAVE  I LOOK AT THE OTHER NAMES FOR  SERVICE NUMBERS SIMILAR TO THE ONES I HAVE  

AND CHECK THEM

BUT OF COURSE SOME ARE DIFFERENT BATTALIONS 

SOME DONE BUT MORE TOO DO LATER!!!!!!

BUT USING THAT METHOD I HAVE FOUND ANOTHER 23 WHICH I HAVE DETAILS FOR OK

OTHERS I CANT FIND 15

WHICH I WILL LIST LATER 

MANY THANKS AGAIN

TREVOR

  

 

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HI CHARLIE

SO FAR NOW I HAVE 183 WITH ALL DETAILS

THESE SOME THAT I CANT FIND INDEX CARDS FOR ( SOME MIGHT BE OTHER BATTALIONS AS THEY ARE LISTED AS REPATS WELSH)

 

28893   TAYLOR  G  E

65184   HUGHES   W

22423   COLLARD  J

65170   DAVIS  W

61143   BURNETT  C 

285186  WHITLOCK  H  F

65165   CLARK  A

65476  THOMAS  R  L

242146  HOWELL  S  W

64359  BOTTOM   T

THANKS

TREVOR 

 

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65165   CLARK  A

See pa29260 and pa24427

He is  C Coy,  18th Welsh but I've not yet found card.

Will continue tomorrow....

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65476  THOMAS  R  L

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The StJohns enquiry has him as 9th Welsh.

R L

Last name Thomas

Soldier number 65476

Platoon/section I

Company A

Battalion 9

Regiment Welsh Regiment

Year 1918

Date reported missing or wounded 30/05/1918

 

 

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HI CHARLIE

NOW I HAVE 195  WITH ALL DETAILS !!!!!!!!!

A FEW MORE WHO I CANT FIND THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE  18TH WELSH  

57492     SKETT   G

28861     KEARY  J

20150    JONES   W

28864    CLEGG  JOHN     JUST FOUND MIISING REPORT WITH NOTE SAYING P O W BUT NOT CONFIRMED ????

28988   LAWLEY  A

266497   DENNIS   J

21755    PRICE    T

32668    WILLIAMS   W  J

60944    ALLCOAT   J  H

25359    WILLIAMS  W  J

37691     JENKS    THOMAS

NEARLY THERE  LAST  JOB ????

COMPARE THE  C W G C  KILLED LIST AND  LIST OF SOLDIERS I ALREADY HAVE TO THE MISSING LIST THAT WILL ELLIMINATE  298 OF THEM

SO SHOULD NOT BE MANY LEFT TO CHECK !!!!!!

THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP

TREVOR

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, weshallremember said:

64359  BOTTOM   T

That is Thomas Sidebottom 64359 of the 9th battalion

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65184   HUGHES   W

Are you sure it is Hughes?

65184 Grove W is of the 18th Welsh, taken 9/4/18

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17 hours ago, weshallremember said:

22423   COLLARD  J

Medal Roll says he was 15th Battalion

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242146  HOWELL  S  W

Medal roll says 9th Bn

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285186  WHITLOCK  H  F

9th Welsh, missing 23/3/18

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That's all for your list of Sunday 21/7

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THANKS CHARLIE

SORRY

ERROR NOT HUGHES

 

LAST ONE FOR TODAYS LIST

27515      BLINKER    L/CPL     18TH ON RETURNS   AND  ALSO LISTED ON ANOTHER RETURNS AS BLINKHO

 

TREVOR

 

 

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57492     SKETT   G

14th Welsh, taken Aug 1918

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