MAVP75 Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July (edited) Hi all, I am researching my Great Gandfather who fought in the Australian Imperial Force (AIF) from 1915-1918. He spent 20 days in Wandsworth Detention Barracks for being AWL for 10 days and lost (forfeitted) 40 days pay. I want to know more about the conditions and experiences he may have gone through whilst there. In particular, would love to get my hands on some Wandsworth records that might mention him and descibe his time there. There isn't a lot of information out there about this aspect of the war. I have found smatterings of information on the net but mostly to do with the 'brutality' and 'conchies' in the prison. Looking for something more personal and detailed. He returned to the front and fought in the 3rd Div. Sig - Etaples, Abbeville, Croix Du Bac, Arras, Armentieres, Missines and that general area of the front. Thank you for any tips or hints or information you may have. Edited 10 July by MAVP75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteStarLine Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July Hi and welcome to the forum. Love to know his name, as a fellow 3 Div Sig descendant. Cheers, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAVP75 Posted 10 July Author Share Posted 10 July (edited) Hi Bill, Great Grandfather's name was George Walter Cullimore (7553). I'm currently working my way through his service records. He started off in Tel El Kebir and then transferred to training camps in England (I think Parkhouse) and then he went AWL before landing himself in Wandsworth. Marched in to Etaples then Abberville where he worked signals until he returned home in 1918. I'm still putting his movements together and cross referencing with war diaries. He spent time in 3rd Division Signals. 3rd Div Train (869 Co) and Infantry. Originally attached to 3rd Div Sig. Edited 10 July by MAVP75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 5 hours ago, MAVP75 said: I am researching my Great Gandfather who fought in the Australian Imperial Force (AIF) from 1915-1918. He spent 20 days in Wandsworth Detention Barracks for being AWL for 10 days and lost (forfeitted) 40 days pay. I want to know more about the conditions and experiences he may have gone through whilst there. lets hope he did not become acquainted with a Portuguese warden during his time there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAVP75 Posted 10 July Author Share Posted 10 July In that case, I am sure he would have enjoyed his stay . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 3 hours ago, RaySearching said: lets hope he did not become acquainted with a Portuguese warden during his time there Can somebody let me in on the joke? Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancpal Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July Likewise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July Of interest, perhaps, if you are a JSTOR subscriber? https://www.jstor.org/stable/44343724 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 34 minutes ago, JMB1943 said: Can somebody let me in on the joke? Have you not got a friend called Google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 1 hour ago, RaySearching said: Have you not got a friend called Google Apparently, I have NO friends! Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July Well, @RaySearching proved himself a true friend and has just let me in via a PM. I must admit that I’m not surprised, it probably happens more often than is reported. However, I am shocked, shocked I tell you……… that someone had to film the event and then post it to the world!!! Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancpal Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July I’m still none the wiser. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 11 July Share Posted 11 July Simon Sorry The remark I made earlier was a tongue in the cheek remark and "Off Topic" not Great War related acknowledged as such by the O P Mavp75 can we move on and let it lie ? The original query by the O P is still outstanding Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 11 July Share Posted 11 July (edited) On 10/07/2024 at 10:00, MAVP75 said: Hi all, I am researching my Great Gandfather who fought in the Australian Imperial Force (AIF) from 1915-1918. He spent 20 days in Wandsworth Detention Barracks for being AWL for 10 days and lost (forfeitted) 40 days pay. I want to know more about the conditions and experiences he may have gone through whilst there. In particular, would love to get my hands on some Wandsworth records that might mention him and descibe his time there. There isn't a lot of information out there about this aspect of the war. I have found smatterings of information on the net but mostly to do with the 'brutality' and 'conchies' in the prison. Looking for something more personal and detailed. He returned to the front and fought in the 3rd Div. Sig - Etaples, Abbeville, Croix Du Bac, Arras, Armentieres, Missines and that general area of the front. Thank you for any tips or hints or information you may have. There are a few past threads that cover this subject. The first one mentions ANZAC, although only in some basic detail. The Army’s headquarters for the Military Provost Staff Corps and their principal detention centre were at Aldershot in Hampshire. 1. https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/163628-ww1-military-prisons-glasshouses/ 2. https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/114252-military-punishment-hopefully-simple-question/ 3. https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/151723-inprisonment-with-hard-labour/ 4. https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/294362-military-prisons/ There are additional threads if you seek more. Edited 11 July by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July From what I can see in my ALH soldiers, Wandsworth was used for minor crimes early on and later for the hard cases when a detention Brks was open at Lewns we started using the Wandsworth Area as a Hosp, (3 London GH) during Gallipoli, and later as a prison when the AIF arrived in the UK and set up shop I can't recall any men sent there for minor crimes during 1916, only during 1917-18 for major crimes. Most crimes in France were handled in France, only the major crimes were sent to a number of prisons in the UK during the war. BRIGGS Charles 123 Pte 02 LHR A Sqn to Mudros 11-15 (G) to 1 LHTR 3-16 to Arty Dtls 5-16 to AATD Parkhouse UK 6-16 to 4 Trg Bn (15Bn) UK 10-16 FGCM 7-7-17 deserter sentence 2 years HL to Wandsworth Prison 7-17 remitted 5-18 to AIBD 5-18 to CCo/49Bn 7-18 F&B killed by shell fire in attack at Hill 123 near Jeancourt buried Jeancourt Communal Cemetery France (Boer War 3 QMI (109) & Doyle's Scouts) AKA alais John Edward Briggs CHERRY Alfred John 14 Sig 03 LHR RHQ to B Sqn 5-15 evac to hosp (1 AGH) Egypt (colitis/dysentry) 9-15 (G) rtn Sig RHQ 12-15 att WFF at Bir Hooker to hosp (VD) 3-16 to 1 LHTR 4-16 to Gnr 2 Sect/4 DAC 3-16 to Bdr 4-16 to hosp (VD) 7-16 rtn 10-16 to hosp (enteric/dysentry) 12-16 F&B to AIF depots (1 com) Bulford UK 3-17 to (4 com) 1-18 FGCM 30-11-18 deserted 5-3-18 handed in 1-11-18 sentenced 9 months detention to Lewes Detn Bks 11-18 (RAN 15-3-13 deserted 7-4-13 (7345) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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