weshallremember Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July looking at a medal roll for 290718 Francis henry Bentley it says he was originally in the 7th WELSH REGIMENT which i understand were cyclist battalions then it says 18TH WELSH ATTACHED TO 40TH DIVISION EMPLOYMENT COMPANY BASE DEPOT any idea where that was ???? and what his duties were???? after he was transferred to the front with the 18th welsh battalion any idea when that would have been many thanks TREVOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keith_history_buff Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July Image courtesy Ancestry I would interpret this as follows, but would like to see what others think Arrives in F&F, is sent to an Infantry Base Depot Is posted to 18th (Service) Battalion, within 40th Division I presume his fitness is not good enough for him to be in the front line, so he is attached to 40 Division's Employment Company, to be a labourer His health recovers, so he returns to the 18th (Service) Battalion, but is killed in action on 10 April 1918 Here is a link to the composition of the various units in 40th Division https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/order-of-battle-of-divisions/40th-division/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July 10 Platoon, "C" Company, 18th (Service) Battalion, Welsh Regiment Reported missing to next of kin in May 1918 Commemorated on the Poegsteert memorial https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/874502/francis-henry-bentley/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July Divisional Employment Companies were part of the Labour Corps It appears that as well as lower medical grade men those Div Emp Coy were allowed to have a number of A1 men too Image thanks to Starling & Lee's - 'No Labour, No Battle', p.119 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July J (Shrewsbury) Infantry Record Office administer the Welsh Regiment. They calculate a payment to his widow in August 1919, which is disbursed on 8 January 1920. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July Payment of £14 18s 3d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July (edited) 1 hour ago, Keith_history_buff said: J (Shrewsbury) Infantry Record Office administer the Welsh Regiment. They calculate a payment to his widow in August 1919, which is disbursed on 8 January 1920. 1 hour ago, Keith_history_buff said: Payment of £14 18s 3d Are those from his Register of Soldiers' Effects entry? What was his War Gratuity? - for those who can do the calc that might offer an enlistment date From WFA/Fold3 pension records: His widow, Elizabeth BENTLEY. b. 31.3.89, lived at 6A Adswood Lane, Stockport, and got a widow's standard 13/9 pw from 16.12.18 [under the 1918 Royal Warrant = under 45 widow of a pension Class V soldier/Pte - and no child(ren)] plus a £5 Grant paid 31.5.20. The MoP records show he was Unpaid Acting LCpl - so paid/substantive rank of Pte used for his widow's pension. M Edited 12 July by Matlock1418 widow's dob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July There is a note underneath which states that it 'includes War Gratuity £9 10/-' Yes, this is from the register of soldiers' effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July Whilst issued a service number from the service number block associated with the 7th TF Battalion, Welsh Regiment, I think he was with one of the iterations of the battalion in Britain, and was then transferred across the English Channel. https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-british-infantry-regiments-of-1914-1918/welsh-regiment/ https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/a-soldiers-life-1914-1918/renumbering-of-the-territorial-force-in-1917/renumbering-the-tf-infantry-in-1917/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July (edited) 4 minutes ago, Keith_history_buff said: War Gratuity £9 10/- Now I am by no means expert - but I think that represents 25 months' service WG to his death [so between 24 & 25 months service]. Somebody who really knows their stuff, please check that! M Edited 12 July by Matlock1418 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July Incident Details War Office Daily List No.5595 Incident Date 18 Jun 1918 Rank Name Private Service Number 290718 Primary Unit Welsh Regiment Casualty Listed As Wounded and missing. Full Name Bentley, F H Next Of Kin Address Stockport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 12 July Share Posted 12 July His birth was registered 4Q 1886 in the Malton registration district of Yorkshire. Born to Sidney and Elizabeth Bentley. He was baptised on 7 November 1886. Marriage registered 4Q 1914 in Stockport to Elizabeth Copeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weshallremember Posted 12 July Author Share Posted 12 July many thanks to all trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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