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Which ‘Hospital School’


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This photo shows a wonderfully earnest looking cadet in a WW1 era cadet corps supported by a school.  I’m not sure if it’s a public school or some other type.  If the former he would be Junior Division of the Officer Training Corps (extraordinary as that must seem to the modern eye), but if it’s a local authority or charity school then he would be a member of the sponsored Army Cadet corps.  Can anyone identify which Hospital School this might be?  I am unfamiliar with what institution the two preceding letters to the H.S. of his shoulder title might refer to.

He stands correctly at ease with a wooden rifle of a type purchased by schools specifically to practise their boys in drilling. 

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Not seeing any obvious candidates in England or Wales schools - might it be an overseas institution?

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19 hours ago, DavidOwen said:

Not seeing any obvious candidates in England or Wales schools - might it be an overseas institution?

No I don’t think so David, it’s in this case the combination of cadet pattern SD uniform, slouch hat and even the waistbelt that - when considered together - are all very British.  It’s post 1910 too given  the woven thread shoulder titles that are directly on the strap, so it’s a well founded school.  Slouch hats were very popular for cadets in the lead up to the war.

Perhaps the H.S. isn’t hospital school, but something else.  Of course many such schools haven’t survived up to the present day.

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11 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said:

No I don’t think so David, it’s in this case the combination of cadet pattern SD uniform, slouch hat and even the waistbelt - when considered together - are all very British.  It’s post 1910 too given  the woven thread shoulder titles that are directly on the strap, so it’s a well founded school.  Slouch hats were very popular for cadets. 

Thanks FS

Then, as I say a general search for schools beginning with U and having T H in their names or titles has come up blank so far....

Uckfield, Ulverston, Uppingham, Upton upon Severn, Uttoxeter, Uxbridge - none seem to fit exactly.

Uppingham Cadet Force was founded in 1889

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4 minutes ago, DavidOwen said:

Thanks FS

Then, as I say a general search for schools beginning with U and having T H in their names or titles has come up blank so far....

Uckfield, Ulverston, Uppingham, Upton upon Severn, Uttoxeter, Uxbridge - none seem to fit exactly.

Uppingham Cadet Force was founded in 1889

Thanks for looking David, it’s really frustrating, as his uniform suggests a well founded establishment and the answer must be out there somewhere.

At first I wondered if there might be some connection with a University, but he’s far too young.

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Hi,

totally unfamiliar with these shoulder titles I wonder if HS could stand for something else than Hospital School?

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GreyC

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6 minutes ago, GreyC said:

Hi,

totally unfamiliar with these shoulder titles I wonder if HS could stand for something else than Hosptial School?

Best,

GreyC

I had a similar thought.

However a search for the abbreviation UTHS has proved fruitless both on FMP and the tinternet in general... 

unless you count United Township High School in USA.

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From Westlake's A Register of Territorial Force Cadet Units 1910 - 1922 (courtesy Internet Archive)

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1 minute ago, DavidOwen said:

From Westlake's A Register of Territorial Force Cadet Units 1910 - 1922 (courtesy Internet Archive)

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Brilliant David and I have that book and it escaped my mind to look!

Upper Tooting [High] School seems a possibility?

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4 hours ago, GreyC said:

Hi,

totally unfamiliar with these shoulder titles I wonder if HS could stand for something else than Hosptial School?

Best,

GreyC

We were, all of us, revising our thoughts to think along similar lines around the same time it seems 👍

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Just now, DavidOwen said:

Indeed it is now Upper Tooting (Independent) High School

Brilliant!  Thank you for your help.  The original photo was for sale online but with no suggestion as to what it was.  I wonder if the school has retained recognition that it ever had such a cadet corps.  

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According to Gov.uk it closed in 1999

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No linked establishments listed.

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4 minutes ago, DavidOwen said:

According to Gov.uk it closed in 1999

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No linked establishments listed.

Ah yes I should’ve guessed.  Perhaps that’s how the photo entered the public domain.  The cadet corps would’ve come under the local County Territorial Force Association for administrative oversight during the course of the war.

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Fascinating stuff David, thank you for digging it up.  After reading it I couldn’t help but reflect on the near hysteria among the TikTokers and Twitterati when there was recent mention of National Service (including military) as a possible requirement.  There was much more collective endeavour back then rather than the narcissistic individualism that undoubtedly prevails now.

I wonder what happened to the earnest young lad in subject photo.

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Excellent result👍👍👍.

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