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Concentration of Graves Map References


Mudman

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Hello, I am trying to understand what the reference numbers in the Concertation of Graves documents represent.

For example for the Marfaux Cemetery, one of the maps is the Jonchery-sur-Vesle 1/20,000

The grid numbers given for PT. Young in the image attached are: 220-850 x 269-900. I realize that the first numbers in the set 220 and 269 and the  X and Y lines on the map marked in red on the map image. What I can't figure out are the second numbers in the set 850 and 900. I presume they further refine the location within the grid lines but I don't know how to interpret them.  If you can offer some insight that would be great!

Thanks
Murdo

 

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If you replaced the hyphen with a decimal point would that make more sense?

Martin

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5 hours ago, Mudman said:

The grid numbers given for PT. Young in the image attached are: 220-850 x 269-900

The "-" should be a decimal sign, dot or comma.
Each square is 1km or 1000x1000m, the three last digits subdivide the square in meters. The last digit in your examples is always 0 which results in a 10x10m precision.
Luc.

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UPDATE: I found what I was looking for.

Another question, how do I find maps adjacent to the 20,0000 Jonchery-sur-Vesle one? is there a key that shows all the maps in relation to one another?
The area I am interested in is the Bois de Coutron which lies close to the bottom edge of this map. https://archives.marne.fr/ark:/86869/s4hfzwcnljqg/6de2b3c2-23f4-48eb-adf6-4aa5c38bbb5b

Thank you

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33 minutes ago, Mudman said:

Another question, how do I find maps adjacent to the 20,0000 Jonchery-sur-Vesle one? is there a key that shows all the maps in relation to one another?

You need a global map which shows all the maps next to each other, wil post a link later.

The example below is an extract from such a map and has what you need.
I am looking for some maps shown on this extract but can't find them: Ste Aulde, Chateau Thierry, etc..
Can you or somebody help me with these?

Luc.

 

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2 hours ago, LDT006 said:

You need a global map which shows all the maps next to each other, wil post a link later.

The example below is an extract from such a map and has what you need.
I am looking for some maps shown on this extract but can't find them: Ste Aulde, Chateau Thierry, etc..
Can you or somebody help me with these?

Luc.

 

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Hi Luc, I found this one for Chateau Thierry Here
Does this help?

Cheers
Murdo

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1 hour ago, Mudman said:

Hi Luc, I found this one for Chateau Thierry Here
Does this help?

Fantastic, there are 4 of Chateau Thierry, different dates and sizes. This is exactly what I need.
Thanks a lot.

The link for the available maps of France can be found here:
https://archives.marne.fr/ark:/86869/jvnsxmwhf8kb
You need the "Tableau d'assemblage provisoire des plans directeurs au 20 000"
I hope this link will get you there:
https://archives.marne.fr/ark:/86869/jvnsxmwhf8kb/31369237-e428-4c52-a9d5-cffa39a72987

Luc.

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