Guest Oscar Posted 22 November , 2003 Share Posted 22 November , 2003 New to all of this and finding it confusing to follow where specific battalions were at a specific time. I am trying to work out where two relatives would have died. They were both Royal Scots Fusiliers (1st Battalion) one died in January 1915 (would this have been during winter operations) and the other died in May 1917 (would this have been at Arras). Hope someone can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewThornton Posted 22 November , 2003 Share Posted 22 November , 2003 In January 1915, 1/RSF were in the line in the Lindenhoek sector, with their rest billets at Westoutre and Locre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Coulson Posted 22 November , 2003 Share Posted 22 November , 2003 In May 1917 1st RSF as part of 8th brigade 3rd division were at the 3rd Battle of the Scarpe 3-4th May and at the Capture of Roeux 13-14th May. Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted 22 November , 2003 Share Posted 22 November , 2003 1st Gordon Highlanders were in the 3rd Division with the 1st RSF and their War Diary is online. From this it would appear the Division was in the area Thilloy, Monchy le Prieux, Duisans, Noyellette, Ambrines from the start to the end of the month. It also mentions shortfall of British artillery killing 1 Officer and 6 ORs. May be worth a look. Aye Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Lewis Posted 22 November , 2003 Share Posted 22 November , 2003 Oscar sorry to hijack your thread Malcolm have you got the web address for the diary,im researching a man who also served with the 1st Btn RSF "B" Coy who died of wounds 25/4/17 received at the second battle of the Scarpe. Any additional information would be gratefully received. Regards Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Sercu Posted 22 November , 2003 Share Posted 22 November , 2003 Oscar, I don't know if you have info from SDGW ? Numbers of KIA and DOW 1/RSF in Jan 1915 1 Jan : 2 KIA, 1 DOW, 1 Died 2 Jan : 4 KIA, 1 Died 3 Jan : 1 KIA, 1 DOW 10 Jan : 2 KIA 12 Jan : 2 KIA, 1 DOW 13 Jan : 1 DOW 15 Jan : 1 Died 18 Jan : 1 KIA, 1 Died 19 Jan : 2 KIA 20 Jan : 2 KIA, 1 DOW 22 Jan : 1 DOW 23 Jan : 1 KIA, 1 Died 25 Jan : 1 KIA 27 Jan : 1 KIA 28 Jan : 1 KIA 30 Jan : 1 DOW Comparatively low numbers as you see, no military actions One of them must be your relative. If you want me to check or confirm... Aurel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted 22 November , 2003 Share Posted 22 November , 2003 http://www.thegordonhighlanders.co.uk/index2.htm I used it for the 2nd Royal Scots info who wer in same Brigade. Aye Malcolm Aye Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oscar Posted 7 December , 2003 Share Posted 7 December , 2003 Thank you everyone who has replied, sorry it has taken me so long to post a reply, I was waiting for e-mail confirmation that someone had replied to me (it never came). Just came back on the off chance. Thanks Malcolm I will visit the website and see what I can find out there. Aurel, I have no info from SDGW, the only information I have on these 2 relatives is from the CWGC. Private John Burgoyne died 2 January 1915. Private Adam Burgoyne died 4 May 1917. I apologise once again for my ignorance but does DOW stand for died of wounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Sercu Posted 7 December , 2003 Share Posted 7 December , 2003 Oscar, Yes, DOW stands for Died of Wounds. In my reply I wrote that apparently, as the numbers of KIAs and DOWs were comparatively low in January 1915, there probably had been no serious military operation. Such low numbers can be accounted for by shelling. However, it happens that the day that John Burgoyne died, was the day with the highest number of (fatal) casualties in that month (4 KIA + 1 Died). So maybe "something" happened that day. I do not possess J. Buchan, The History of the Royal Scots Fusiliers, London 1925. (Nor do I possess the War diaries). However, I know that they have Buchan, History of the RSF in the Documentation Centre in Ypres. If you want me to I can find out if something is written about that period, but not until next Wednesday. (Personally I don't think much mention will be made, but checking will only take a minute. I happen to have a photocopy of the period April - June 1915, and it is only 1 page.) But maybe another Forum member has this source at home ? Aurel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oscar Posted 8 December , 2003 Share Posted 8 December , 2003 Aural Thank you for your reply, I would really appreciate it if you could check if there is any information regarding what happened that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Sercu Posted 10 December , 2003 Share Posted 10 December , 2003 Oscar, I will contact you off Forum. And as I was afraid of : there is not much ... Aurel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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