Anthony Bagshaw Posted 14 April , 2007 Share Posted 14 April , 2007 How about 68** numbers?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Hesketh Posted 14 April , 2007 Share Posted 14 April , 2007 How about 68** numbers?? Anthony - check your e-mail!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 14 April , 2007 Share Posted 14 April , 2007 THANK YOU Don't do those in green do you? Suppose me medal is in the post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Hesketh Posted 14 April , 2007 Share Posted 14 April , 2007 Don't do those in green do you? Suppose me medal is in the post THANK YOU Anything you want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 14 April , 2007 Share Posted 14 April , 2007 Don't do those in green do you? Suppose me medal is in the post Thank you from me also stevem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 14 April , 2007 Share Posted 14 April , 2007 Thank you from me also stevem A virtual medal, Thanks! will look good next to my Disgraceful Conduct Medal. Patina, unpolished, just as I like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebriggs Posted 15 April , 2007 Author Share Posted 15 April , 2007 Geoff Absolutely outstanding ! I'm lost for words Many thanks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bagshaw Posted 15 April , 2007 Share Posted 15 April , 2007 Geoff, May i add a MASSIVE THANK YOU aswell!! Absolutely stunning!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebriggs Posted 19 April , 2007 Author Share Posted 19 April , 2007 Thinking further on what Andrew posted re: Cliff's dad in the 1/7th, 9th etc Here is an update on the 7**** numbers in that I've added dates for the men's transfers Now what we really need is more dates of transfers to tie down when these numbers were issued You can find these on Army Form B103 or "Statement of Service", which are found in the Army Pension Records. So if you come accross these numbers for Notts and Derby men, please see if this information is there cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 12 May , 2007 Share Posted 12 May , 2007 Where the Sherwood Foresters rest: http://www.hut-six.co.uk/GreatWar/ND/sherwoodforesters.html (Notts & Derby Anoraks only - VERY large file! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Hesketh Posted 12 May , 2007 Share Posted 12 May , 2007 Geoff, thank you. You are going to have to attend the next East Midlands meet, just so that we can all fall to the floor in front of you and worship. We might even buy you a drink*. This is brilliant. Some time soon, when I have a little time, I'm going to have to try to figure out how I / we (the SF mob) can merge all this data into something 'big'. Right now I'm feeling a tad overwhelmed. (* a small one - we're tight) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 12 May , 2007 Share Posted 12 May , 2007 Bother - i was just about to start that !!!! Well done that man. I have a number of the headstones, mainly 9th men but a few others as well. 9th men - all in Belgium. Sebourg area, mazingarbe, Loos. Hopefully finish Somme in August. Then just the coastal ones, gallipoli and some oddd cemeteries in France to do. Treat yourself to half a shandy and I will let you have the money after I have made my first million as an author (be lucky if I break even) stevem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 12 May , 2007 Share Posted 12 May , 2007 Bother - i was just about to start that !!!! Well done that man. I blame Alan Turing. Treat yourself to half a shandy and I will let you have the money after I have made my first million as an author (be lucky if I break even) He's right, you are tight. No signed first edition copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 12 May , 2007 Share Posted 12 May , 2007 I blame Alan Turing. He's right, you are tight. No signed first edition copy? For a large price i will sign it in blood I have to pay for the Rolls Royce my wife ordered. I want to join Skindles but cannot afford to by everyone a drink being a War Pensioner ( violin music begins) stevem (hard up Chelsea out pensioner, spinster of this parish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 14 May , 2007 Share Posted 14 May , 2007 This is brilliant. Some time soon, when I have a little time, I'm going to have to try to figure out how I / we (the SF mob) can merge all this data into something 'big'. Right now I'm feeling a tad overwhelmed. I've run a check of this data against my previous MIC data. Actually I stopped it at around 2000 record. It seems that about 4% either don't have MIC entries (matching name and number) or have errors. Manually checking the first 10 of the missing entries, four had wrong numbers (this is errors in the MIC indexing, one digit wrong or missing) and 6 I could not find a MIC at all. Tried searching for the numbers to see if it pulled up a badly transcribed name but found none. All were oversea deaths. All were OK in SDGW. If you want a full list of the mismatched records - there'll be around 400-500 ....if I run it to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Hesketh Posted 14 May , 2007 Share Posted 14 May , 2007 ...If you want a full list of the mismatched records - there'll be around 400-500.... Geoff, do you really need to ask? Have you not already figured that we SF folk are grasping types? On a serious note though, some of us have discussed how best to deal with all this data that you have so marvellously supplied without, it has to be said, coming up with much of an answer. I've not been a great help as I've been a bit bogged down with work over the last few weeks and I know Mike is the same. We've now got the massive MIC data-set and the massive CWGC data-set. And some of us have got our own databases too. How do we merge them? What do we do now? Chaps, I feel that this summer's meet should have an agenda that is slightly more detailed than i) curry ii) pub iii) er... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPCLI Posted 14 May , 2007 Share Posted 14 May , 2007 Chaps, I feel that this summer's meet should have an agenda that is slightly more detailed than i) curry ii) pub iii) er... I agree. Although not a Forester aficionado (but a regimental numbering saddo), I would like to hear a bit more about the numbering system, how it was used, how you have all went about researching it and also it would be good to tease out from Geoff the technical know-how of extracting this type of data to set up a web site with links. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 15 May , 2007 Share Posted 15 May , 2007 there'll be around 400-500 ....if I run it to the end. Actually 630. Although quite a number are home deaths, presumably no MIC, which bumped up the total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebriggs Posted 15 May , 2007 Author Share Posted 15 May , 2007 I've run a check of this data against my previous MIC data. Actually I stopped it at around 2000 record. It seems that about 4% either don't have MIC entries (matching name and number) or have errors. Manually checking the first 10 of the missing entries, four had wrong numbers (this is errors in the MIC indexing, one digit wrong or missing) and 6 I could not find a MIC at all. Tried searching for the numbers to see if it pulled up a badly transcribed name but found none. All were oversea deaths. All were OK in SDGW. If you want a full list of the mismatched records - there'll be around 400-500 ....if I run it to the end. Geoff great stuff - many thanks (I'll have to go away more often it this is what awaits my return ) Regarding missing MICs - all I can add is that 4% doesn't surpise me. In compiling a list of 6/Foresters I have about 40 men whom I can't find an MIC for, but I know they served in France because they were either wounded (and this is recorded) or arived in specific drafts (that were also recorded)............they must have just be lost over time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 19 May , 2007 Share Posted 19 May , 2007 Regarding missing MICs - all I can add is that 4% doesn't surpise me. In compiling a list of 6/Foresters I have about 40 men whom I can't find an MIC for, but I know they served in France because they were either wounded (and this is recorded) or arived in specific drafts (that were also recorded)............they must have just be lost over time I think around 2% are missing and 2% have indexing errors. More issues, there seem to be quite a few duplicate regiment numbers, index errors? or do these belong to different battalions? - a few examples: Adams 1561 http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=2 Peach 1561 http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=2 Diggle 4952 http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=1 Giles 4952 http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=2 I'v also noted several hundred (not sure yet, could be 200 - 400) instances where the name has a different spelling. Checking a random sample of 20 of these against SDGW, 7 are in agreement with MIC and 13 with CWGC. examples: REDFERN, REDFEARN; KIRBY, KIRKBY; CANNON, GANNON; HOLLINGSWORTH, HOLLINGWORTH; COTTEE, COTTIE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 20 May , 2007 Share Posted 20 May , 2007 Andrew, Have you considered sharing your info with the Sherwood Foresters Musuem so they can add it to thier data base, the aim of which is to hold the details of as many sherwood foresters as possible. The Museum Data base currently runs in excess of 8000 names and varying details. regards Mark Geoff, do you really need to ask? Have you not already figured that we SF folk are grasping types? On a serious note though, some of us have discussed how best to deal with all this data that you have so marvellously supplied without, it has to be said, coming up with much of an answer. I've not been a great help as I've been a bit bogged down with work over the last few weeks and I know Mike is the same. We've now got the massive MIC data-set and the massive CWGC data-set. And some of us have got our own databases too. How do we merge them? What do we do now? Chaps, I feel that this summer's meet should have an agenda that is slightly more detailed than i) curry ii) pub iii) er... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Hesketh Posted 20 May , 2007 Share Posted 20 May , 2007 Have you considered sharing your info with the Sherwood Foresters Musuem so they can add it to thier data base, the aim of which is to hold the details of as many sherwood foresters as possible. The Museum Data base currently runs in excess of 8000 names and varying details. Mark, Several of us have (behind the scenes) been discussing ways forward for a little while. 'Our' collective database significantly exceeds that of the museum. I, for one, have no desire to horde information jealously and I am sure that as part of our action plan, whenever this gets formulated, the museum will play an important role on both a give and take basis. Some of us have already benefitted from and contributed to their existing database. Our problem for now is to find a way of merging our data and creating coherence. It's a bit like juggling jelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebriggs Posted 23 May , 2007 Author Share Posted 23 May , 2007 More issues, there seem to be quite a few duplicate regiment numbers, index errors? or do these belong to different battalions? - a few examples: Geoff, more than likely they will be the different Battalions of the Territorial Force - 1/5, 1/6. 1/7, 1/8 and then the 2nd and 3rd line Battalions. Potential you could have four sets of numbers running up to about 5600, although quite a few of these men would have left the TF prior to 1914 or not served overseas so there will be gaps. cheers Mike Andrew - I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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